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Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« on: April 01, 2003, 16:07:16 »
From a press release:

"Daimler-Chrysler announced today that it will start a limited-series re-production of the famous W113 SL "Pagoda". Taking their cue from Ford, who are set to once again manufacture their legendary GT40 starting in 2004, Mercedes has chosen the more refined and elegant sixties sports car, over the less-sedate 300SL which was reportedly also considered for re-incarnation. Details on pricing and release dates have not yet been finalized.

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2003, 21:05:32 »
Ha ha.  Good one Cees.  I see that "April Fool's Day" gets all around the globe.

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2003, 01:36:56 »
Wishful thinking Cees

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2003, 03:28:43 »
I guess the price is going to be more than the original $7,000? Oh, and they give you a portable airbag to hold in that big space between you and the steering wheel.
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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2003, 09:20:51 »
If that where to happen, I would hock my personal soul and be first in line to buy a new one.

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2003, 12:14:17 »
They asked my toy-W133 as example.
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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2003, 03:00:02 »
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Originally posted by 280SL71

I guess the price is going to be more than $7,000? Oh, and they give you a portable airbag to hold in the big space between you and the steering wheel.
Richard M :o)



Sorry to tell you this, Richard but MB carefully planned this marketing action.
They do chose the Pagoda instead of the 300SL exactly because the steering wheel pad (which is not present on older models like the 300SL or 190SL) will conceal a micronized airbag. Same micro-airbag will be put into the dash padding in front of the passenger, while side-airbags will reside in the door armrests.
As you surely know, today no new car could be produced and sold without a few mandatory safety devices.
For this reason (and remembering the "tail-happiness" of the W113), on this new W313 model (yes, that's the official internal code) MB will install the ESP system which proved so successful in keeping the "Class A" ON the road.
In any case, a mandatory, fixed anti-roll cage will be present to protect passengers in case of roll-over.
To complain with the front- and side-impact regulations, the W313 will sport plastic front and rear bumpers about 30cm (1 foot) thick and the famous ultra-light aluminium doors will enclose steel bars about 30kg (67lbs) heavy (each).
This extra weight will produce the extra benefit of a more "squat" and sporty stance of the car, without the need of spending money on reduced-height suspension.
All considered, I think this wonderful new model should be only just a little heavier and slower than my '74 Land Rover...

Regarding the sale price, I'm afraid you forgot at least one "0"...



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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2003, 04:55:40 »

Airbag? We have airbag in our original W113! The steering wheel pad is its vintage airbag  :)

About the rest of new safety devices (ABS, ESP, ASR, BAS, side bars, reinforced bumpers, etc), I guess they will make the "230 SL Kompressor" (197 HP) to compensate the extra weight...

I will wait until the SL 23 AMG (W313)...  :D

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2006, 13:38:49 »
Just had to bring this one back :D

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2006, 21:59:23 »
Gosh, could you imagine all of that Diamler Chrysler modernly unreliable electronic gadgetry hamhanded into a w113 chassis?  Golly, where would they put the night-vision monitor?

This one's still a funny joke to ponder overall...

« Last Edit: April 01, 2006, 22:03:15 by Chad »

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2006, 23:08:16 »
I for one would not want the new 113 to be called a 113 or a pagoda. This might tarnish the name of our vinatage cars.  Can you imagine if the new 113 becomes  unreliable, people will think all pagodas are. Maybe Mbenz can do what Datsun did on the 240z. they got 40 old cars and re did/remanufactured them as brand new and sold them for I think 30K USD. That would be better than bringing in a new113 with all the latest bugs/unreliability Mbenz has to offer.

Now if they reissue a pagoda just the way it was, then i will be the first to line up to get one.

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2006, 16:15:05 »
To all concerned: The base price will still be US$7000.00 for the basic model. There will be a choice of engines: The powerless US version or the hot European version. As for transmissions, Mercedes is working on an updated automatic: It will have two expandable V-belt pulleys with a wide belt running in between, similar to the Flender, Bocholt, Variomatic. Or, optional, an automatic built under license from Fuji Heavy Industries. For emergency propulsion, there will be a padded opening approrimately between the driver's legs, thru the floor boards. A pogo stick will be carried in the boot, which, when inserted into said opening, provides forward leverage when moved back & forth  by the driver. Because of the ingenious arangement, it is 100% reliable and will carry a Mercedes Benz Factory Warranty for the life of the car, or the life of the owner, whichever comes first.

To VanEsp: The inner door panels belong to a 230SL and the wood does not belong there. The R.H. visor has no mirror on the 280SL and the shape of the outside mirrors is funny. Why is the shifter not in park? I really wonder why - seriously - a W113 could not be produced in China. Probably wouldn't pass California smog controls. Ah, well, Mercedes built one very good model: The W113 for a few years. That's all one can realisticly expect from any company during it's life span.
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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2006, 19:08:40 »
Oh yeah - - -

except this time around the W stands for washing machine,

and the 113.042 is the cost in US dollars,

and instead of building them in Singenfelden they will come from Elbonia !

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2006, 22:24:32 »
It's not totally a prank,  Mekatronik is actually making them...http://www.mechatronik.de/en/msl.htm  They claim the process is reversible.  

I do like the photos of the race pagoda with the black and white checkered roof.  I don't think it's been converted, they do standard restorations too.

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2006, 01:59:50 »
It's not a prank at all... on the 2003 Technoclassica in Essen Mercedes Benz showed this Pagoda 280SL. Look at the photographs carefully, especially those of the interior.



It is a Pagoda, completely rebuilt from spare parts in stock. Where they did not have spare parts they took some liberties. Apparently it cost over $120K in spare parts alone, not even counting the labour involved.




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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2006, 07:36:29 »

Wow at a 120K USD one can get a mint condition circa 1960 with history. that may be the better option :)

Though I guess for the monied few,  USD 120K is a drop in the bucket :)

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2006, 09:54:31 »
Peter,

Those are great pix. Perhaps it's just me, but when I look at those photos, the Pagoda doesn't look "old." It's an ageless design.

In fact, I remember right after the SLK came out a few years back, a young person on the streets of Manhattan walked up to me in my SL and asked me if my car was the new SLK!

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2006, 11:39:13 »
Peter,
you wetted my appetite for more pictures! Indeed, it will never look out of date.
It appears that this car has the leather covered armrest that is mentioned in another thread. Do you have perhaps a more detailed picture of the interior and how the armrest fits into the wood box?

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Re: Mercedes to start producing the W113 again
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2006, 07:17:56 »
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It appears that this car has the leather covered armrest that is mentioned in another thread. Do you have perhaps a more detailed picture of the interior and how the armrest fits into the wood box?


As I said in the mail, where they did not have original parts they took some liberties. The armrest is from a later model, and the wood on the doors is also a "new" feature. I don't think they had installed the normal wooden box.

I did not take any more pictures, sorry... and my memory is vague on the details also.

I will be in Essen again this Friday, so if I spot this car again, I'll be sure to photograph it in minute detail! 8)

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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2006, 08:46:32 »
Looks like they also selected new M-B carpet. Hmmm...I wonder if they went with the new Webasto seat heaters/coolers/back massagers too??  :D

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