well, do I feel stupid.
after much thought and discussion with co workers , came home , double checked the timing etc.
pulled the tech data book, and of course, the sl timing static is between 5 and 8 deg B TDC.
I was setting the distro at TDC.
re set the timing to 5 deg BTDC and it started right up..
thanks again
matt
Matt
Austin Tx
66 230 sl - "white"
78 300 D - Blue
98 C230