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mdsalemi

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Pagoda Love Project UPDATE
« on: June 18, 2008, 08:28:07 »
Thought I'd start a new thread with a little more information.

First, looks favorable to reducing cost and maintaining or improving the quality by changing from photobook publishing to short run.  I'm awaiting some samples now.  Improving the quality means a higher quality paper, and stitched library hardcover case; reduced costs means probably more on the order of $120 as opposed to $190.  Nothing is final until the book is designed and quoted in final form but this is a reasonable estimate based on information I have today.

Second, the new printing method should not have the page limitation, therefore those who want to get in on it, let me know offline.  I've sent notes to the few that were shut out.  The bigger the better.
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Re: Pagoda Love Project UPDATE
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2008, 13:49:48 »
Pardon my ignorance, but how does a printing method limit the number of pages?  Do you mean there is a physical or systematic limit, or is it simply cost prohibitive?
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Re: Pagoda Love Project UPDATE
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2008, 14:20:49 »
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Originally posted by rwmastel

Pardon my ignorance, but how does a printing method limit the number of pages?  Do you mean there is a physical or systematic limit, or is it simply cost prohibitive?


This was answered in the original note, at least in terms of vendor restrictions and requirements.

It has to do with what the vendor offers.  I don't know if the limit is systemic or what--from my experience in the printing industry I'll hazard a guess: it's simply what the vendor chooses to offer.  The other potential issue is that photobooks generally are not true hard covers (stitched)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookbinding but rather perfect bound (The Star is perfect bound) books, glued at the spine with hard covers.  There's a difference.  Going beyond the 100 pages they offer may create some kind of binding issue.  Who knows--it doesn't matter.  They stick to their limits and their offerings.

In the "photobook" method, there are generally set templates to work with from a design standpoint; a constrained set of page sizes; of binding styles; and pages from 20-100.  You cannot vary from these formats, sizes or pages.

...which is one reason I am exploring other methods.

If you want to see the constraints in terms of photobooks, take a cruise around a few major photobook sites:

http://mpix.com/productsinfo.aspx?prod=21
http://mypublisher.com/products.php
http://www.kodakgallery.com/PhotoBookOverview.jsp
http://www.picaboo.com/photobooks/index.html

...there are a lot more out there but they all have many constraints in terms of size, number of pages, etc.  They also nearly all get more expensive as the page count goes up (priced per page) and the cost per book is fixed based on size and page count; not the number of books ordered.  That last item is counter-intuitive to most of out thinking.  Constraints, constraints, constraints.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Pagoda Love Project UPDATE
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2008, 17:22:21 »
Michael,

Here's a link to a private photographic book publishing company that's quite reasonable --

http://www.my100books.com/

I know this through a professional photographer who wanted to produce his own photobook but not break the bank.

It's worthwhile to check it out.

Cheers,
Michael

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Re: Pagoda Love Project UPDATE
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 15:14:18 »
My second favorite automobile is my 1987 Ford Mustang LX 5.0. I purchase a limited edition book called Fox-Body Mustang Recognition Guide. By thomas A. Shreiner & Peter C Sessler.
The first copies  purchased were numbered and signed with a  foil tag dated and numbered. I do not think it cost them much john Olson sort of did the same thing with his book. I think it may add to the exclusiveness of this special  book.
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Re: Pagoda Love Project UPDATE
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 15:43:39 »
FYI--

Bob Geco called me at home the other night (always nice to chat!) and explained his dilemma: he has a bunch of older photos and he attempted, at great cost (let's just say he's not a techie)to have them scanned.  Whoever did it screwed up.  Bob got his money back.

He's sending them here and they'll be professionally scanned and returned.  Included are some vintage photos of the W113 when new with his father.

Anyone in a similar position, contact me!

Some photos are trickling in and they are looking great!
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