can it???

[Skyline-GTR]

hi my friend and sorry for noise

I have  Mercedes 230 sl model 1966 and i have prpblem that the engine is broken and I found now 280 sl engine but after fit it the Mechaical man told me the gearbox is broke the engine and there is problem in freewheel as he told me

my question is is the gear can broke and engine or these guy maybe lie to me to buy other gearbox

thanks

[jeffc280sl]

I'm not sure I understand the question.  Are you speaking about a manual gearbox with clutch or an automatic transmission?  I'm familiar with the manual transmission and attached you will find a couple of pictures of a manual or 4 speed.  The clutch picture shows the flywheel in the lower left corner.  The other picture is the transmission or gearbox.

If you can have you mechanic identify the part that he thinks has failed maybe it will help us understand your problem.  Many manual transmission parts are interchangeable from model to model.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

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[jeffc280sl]

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Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

[enochbell]

I am guessing a bit, but I think Skyline's question is:  "I had a 280 engine installed in my 230 and after that the transmission broke, and needs at least a new flywheel.  The mechanic says it was the engine swap that caused this, can that be true?"


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'64 230sl, fully sorted out...ooops, spoke too soon

[Shvegel]

I think what your mechanic means is that when you put a later 280 engine in a 230 you need the flywheel from a later 280 in order to make it all work. The flywheel you have could damage the engine if installed on the 280 engine.

[Skyline-GTR]

Hi my friend and thanks for reply to my topic
I spoke with mechanic  he told me the flywheel converter is damage
and he will try to repair it and he can't

so if this part is avaiable and howmuch is cost and
it is  the flywheel converter same in 230 sl and 280 sl
because I change the engine to 280 sl
and ofcourse the gearbox is automatic
thanks alot

[Shvegel]

I see now. In english what you are looking for is called a torque converter. They are not too hard to find here in the US. I would imagine you would pay around $300 US Dollars for a good one.

[Shvegel]

Also ask your mechanic if the flywheel(the part with the gear teeth on the outside) is from the 280 engine or the 230 engine. It might be that the flywheel could be the wrong. If we know that the flywheel came with the engine I know you are good but if it came with the car it may be the wrong one.

[cth350]

careful here.

A 230SL has a fluid coupling. It is a short aluminum cylinder about 3 inches (8cm) thick and about 12" (30cm) in diameter.

On later cars, there are both torque converters and fluid couplings, and there are two kinds of fluid couplings.

Later fluid couplings are iron and have a rounder shape to them.  Torque converters are also iron and have rounder, oval profile.

The difference between them is that a fluid coupling has a single set of splines to hold the input shaft of the transmission and the torque converter has two concentric (circle within a circle) sets of splines that mate to both the input shaft AND the pump housing.

If your mechanic intends to keep the current transmission, make sure it is the one that is matched to the engine (the M130E motor should be matched to a transmission from either a 280SE or a 280SL) AND make sure that you know if it needs a torque converter or a fluid coupling (and which of the two fluid couplings).

Once you know the specifics of what you have the other parts are easily acquired in the US, but shipping will be expensive.  The parts can also be acquired in europe from one of several good used parts suppliers.

-CTH