Headlamp to body attachment

[Naj ✝︎]

On the Euro headlight frame, there is a captive nut which holds the chrome trim to the body.
On a US headlamp (1970 at least) the side light/indicator lamp lens is attached to the chrome trim but what where is the fixing on the body for the screw to hold the chrome trim?

naj

[ja17]

Hello Naj,
On the side marker lights?
The lense and the aluminum bezel are an assebly snapped together. The plastic lense has a "tab" molded into the back side which hooks into the metal base on one side, the other side is held by the slotted screw through the aluminum bezel.  
On the headlight doors....
The headlight bezels hook into a bracket on the fender at the top and a captive nut is held in a tab at the bottom of the headlight bbucket. The chrome bezel has a clip at the top and a hole for a screw at the bottom.

[Naj ✝︎]

Hello Naj,
 
On the headlight doors....
The headlight bezels hook into a bracket on the fender at the top and a captive nut is held in a tab at the bottom of the headlight bucket. The chrome bezel has a clip at the top and a hole for a screw at the bottom.

Thanks, Joe.

Anybody have a picture of the captive nut for the US headlamp?

naj

[66andBlue]

Naj,
I believe the nut comes with p/n 113 826 00 12 (Group 82/Table 47) - but I am not sure.  I'll ask Dave G.
Hope you can see it in the photo, it is a bit blurred.

[Naj ✝︎]

Thanks, Alfred.

Believe new ones are nla?

naj

[Dave Gallon]

The nut is part of 113 826 00 12, just as Alfred said. Sadly, at the moment, there is no stock available and the code associated with the part suggests Daimler does not plan to supply the part in the future. If you have an urgent need, I can probably find a used part. Alternatively, it may be the case that the captive nut is a standard DIN part retained in the mounting clip - I will do some checking.

[Witt]

.......you may be able to find those clips at your friendly hardware and / or auto supply store......those clips are used to install stuff in " blind " locations ( hardware store ) and to hold door panels in place ( auto supply store ) They are U-shaped, spring loaded and touching on the open end. The idea is to slip them over the metal tap, leaving the hole exposed so you can thread the screw into place. You have to take the screw with you to the store in order to find the right size.
I believe we have them at The Homedepot.
Hope this is of some help......

CHEERS !
WITT !

[Dave Gallon]

I would be glad to be corrected but I do not believe you are going to find anything like this part at Home Depot.

The captive nut in the "mounting angle" is 4mm. It looks to me like a DIN 562. I had forgotten but I must have researched this issue sometime in the past as I have stock on MB 000562 004001 and it is exactly the captive nut. It might still be available from MB. However, I can add that online-schrauben.de lists them in their catalog at EUR 0.16 each.

[66andBlue]

Naj,
here are more pictures. Not only is the angle bracket NLA but so is the lens head screw with a narrower thread-less leader pin on the front.
That leader is very helpful finding the nut. As you can see these "search and find" attempts using a normal screw have been very effective in removing the paint.  

I am curious why this bracket is only listed in the 230SL spare parts list and no longer in the 250SL/280SL list.  What does a 280SL head light bucket look like?  Is the bracket now an integral part of the bucket?

[Dave Gallon]

The bracket (113 826 00 12) is only used on cars with sealed beam headlights. The 230SL, Edition C parts book contains the bracket in the sealed beam section. The 250SL/280SL, Edition C parts book does not contain SAs and, thus, does not have the sealed beam headlight option. The US version 250SL/280SL, Edition A parts book contains the sealed beam headlights and shows the bracket.

[ja17]

Hello,

This is one part which can be easily reproduced and supplied by someone in the future. K & K and Bud's already reproduce much more complicated items for these cars.

[Naj ✝︎]

This car has had new front wings and Mr Bodge decided to take a short cut as evidenced by this and some other work around the headlamp and the rest of the car. 

[Dave Gallon]

Anyone converting from US version to European version lighting will have two of these brackets available for replating, installation of a new nut, and re-use on a needy car.

[mait]

Like naj's 113, mine too is devoid of these parts for the same reason. I can easily make that part. Could someone (66andBlue or others) take their calipers and give us some measurements?
e.g: Thickness of stock, length, width, height, distance between mounting holes, dimensions of 4mm square captive nut, etc.
Blueprint drawings would be nice but not necessary.
Thanks in advance - Mait

[Witt]

I would be glad to be corrected but I do not believe you are going to find anything like this part at Home Depot.

The captive nut in the "mounting angle" is 4mm. It looks to me like a DIN 562. I had forgotten but I must have researched this issue sometime in the past as I have stock on MB 000562 004001 and it is exactly the captive nut. It might still be available from MB. However, I can add that online-schrauben.de lists them in their catalog at EUR 0.16 each.

....you are quite right, I just suggested an alternate fix untill the correct part is available.
 
CHEERS !
WITT !

[ja17]

They look like the ones used on the sedans of the era?
If so I have a good supply back in the south forty!

[Dave Gallon]

Unfortunately, the sedans of the era are different. The 113 part is secured with two sheet metal screws and is a right angle bracket. The sedans have a folded over metal part which is part of the fender. A square nut slides into this and is retained with a spring clip. Same function, different design.

[Naj ✝︎]

Hello, Dave,

Do you ave the part # for the 4mm brass screws that hold the main headlamp frame to the body?

The head of the screw is smaller than normal screws.

naj