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gnj588d

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shock absorber shock?
« on: August 10, 2010, 10:42:09 »
Thinking of renewing my original shocks until I rang M.B agent £906.86. is there anywhere preferebly in the U.K that does not rip off to that extent,is there a way to tell if they are shot :o Many thanks Mike














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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 10:56:14 »
Mike euro car parts have them listed,Bilstiens which is what i have fitted, £60 each.
Reg
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gnj588d

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2010, 12:42:17 »
Just spoken to euro car parts but they say they dont list them >I gave them the part numbers.front F4-B36-0529-HO Rear F4-B46-0539-HO.Then gave my reg Number no luck again,do you know the part numbers of your shock? Thanks. Mike.

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 13:04:24 »
Yes,
 Find a Bilstien supplier/dealer rather than a Mercedes Dealer and you can save a lot.
Joe Alexander
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1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
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RickM

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2010, 14:47:41 »
In the Porsche world a well regarded alternative is to have Bilstein rebuild the existing units. I believe there are two Bilstein rebuild locations here in the US...East and West. There are also independent, certified rebuilders as well. You might want to reach out to the UK rep below or contact the German headquarters and inquire. Good luck.

UK:
ThyssenKrupp Bilstein Technical Centre UK for Special Projects and Damper Service
UNIT 3, Swannington Road, Broughton Astley, Leicester
Leicestershire LE9 6TU
United Kingdom
Tel.: 0044 01455 288410 for special projects, 0044 01455 283407 service work
Fax.: 0044 01455 283301
E-Mail: richard.anderson@kruppbilstein.co.uk

Germany:
Standard replacement, customising, amateur motor sports
ThyssenKrupp Bilstein Tuning GmbH
Milsper Straße 214
58256 Ennepetal
Germany
Tel.: +49 (0) 23 33 / 7 91-4444
Fax: +49 (0) 23 33 / 7 91-4400
E-mail: info@bilstein.de


Below is what is offered here in the US:

( http://www.bilsteinus.com/services.php )


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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2010, 15:36:30 »
Mike
There the right part numbers i just crawled under mine to check, Third hand information about euro car parts, My man said he wanted reg number,Which you have done, so ???, Wembly depot have 2 fronts and 3 rears in stock, Available overnight,
So you better get a move on before somebody else gets them, Goodluck
Reg
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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 01:33:43 »
There is a spec in the big blue book for checking them. It has to do with relaxed length. Basically the longer the absorber the more oil has leaked out.

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 04:45:07 »
Hello,

They also get "dead " areas at the top when the nitrogen leaks out.

In the past replacement Bilstein shocks were advertised as "guaranteed for life".  I suspect that this applied to the original purchaser of the replacements shocks only.

I always heard that it was very difficult to get them to live up to this warranty if they go bad.

I do like them better than any other gas filled shocks by far. I have never tried a set of Konis. 
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 14:25:19 »
Joe,

Are the original 113 shocks gas or oil filled?
« Last Edit: August 11, 2010, 14:27:18 by RickM »

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2010, 14:46:40 »
Hello Richard,

The original shocks are gas filled Bilsteins.
In the 1972 version of the "Technical Data" booklet, pages 339-351 Bilstien part numbers, test values and more information than you will ever need can be found. The suspensions on these cars are tuned for these gas filled shocks, since they actually provide a certain amount of up-force besides dampening up and down movement.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2010, 18:31:44 »
Great info...thanks for clarifying.

...and congrats on your 3000th post.

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2010, 21:27:32 »
Thanks Richard,

I did not notice until you said something!
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

gnj588d

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2010, 20:10:02 »
Thanks everyone for the great info specially Reggie for crawlling under his car for the numbers,just been told by a very respected member that the 230 rears are not the same as the 250 or 280 so those part numbers for the rears would be incorrect? any views on this.Cheers .Mike ??? {or part numbers}
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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2010, 04:22:40 »
I would say that most shops use the same version Bilstien shocks in all W113 cars these days.  In fact, I have a 1974 Bilstein factory catalog which lists the same shocks for all W113 cars. The Bilstein numbers listed;   #B 36-529 fronts and #B 46-539 rears.  The Bilstein steering dampner shock was # B 22-246

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2010, 18:19:10 »
Joe's advice is spot on 'as usual'  ;) ;)

Looking through parts lists, the 230SL started with a Fintail rear shock absorber 111 326 0100 which then changed to 108 320 0131. The Bilstein part # for that is B46-0537

The latest part # on the EPC for the 230SL rear shock is 113 320 0031, same as the 250SL and 280SL (B46 0539)

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Re: shock absorber shock?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2011, 06:56:42 »
KYB, Sachs seems to work well with benz too but a bit cheaper than Bilstein! Anyways all seem to work well and you don't need to pay hefty for individual shock parts.

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