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Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« on: January 15, 2012, 15:33:25 »
I know that we would all agree that our beloved Pagodas are first and foremost, our most favorite sports cars. For me, my 69 280SL will be in our family forever. Other cars have come and gone. I'm curious as to what other sports cars our membership may own, and how do you compare your Pagoda to your significant other(s). Is your Pagoda your favorite, or is there a more seductive temptress in your garage?
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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2012, 15:43:06 »
Must be too cold in Chatham this morning!!  It was about 2 degrees F when I went out for coffee this morning at 5am. 

My vote would be an early Porsche - like a 356, or 911 (993).  I think you still may have your 356 - as do a few others on the forum.

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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 15:48:52 »
I can't really say any one is first and foremost over the other, they each have their unique pleasures and disappointments.  I don't know which I'd sell first if I had to. 
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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 17:47:28 »
Mine would be a 911 - Sporto box targa, pref the 2.2
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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 18:02:20 »
Mine be the 'Earl Camino' of course. Between the cars and my loved one, and the various girlfriends on the side, I'd have a real tough time choosing!
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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 19:25:54 »
It was about 22 this morning Doug. I actually sold both 356's this year and replaced them with a 2011 Boxster Spyder. Quite a car.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2012, 22:14:59 »
280SL 5 speed, Jaguar E Type 4.2 SII, or the new 230SL Auto coming soon I hope, and I know I am going to be pressured to bring it back to 2 cars in the shed. With my wife only driving Auto, that sets one of them.

Its going to be a really hard decision and one I am dreading.

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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 00:52:33 »
is an extension to the shed an option?
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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 04:52:20 »

Ok I misread the initial question but I'll leave that answer below... My second and thirds currently are much less sexy -- a 2001 Chevy Tahoe and 2011 Chevy Siiverado.


My answers were -- what would I like to have as second or third..., keeping in mind that I am not really much of a collector car nut...

I would like a really nice condition:

1. 69 Chevy Camaro
2. A 67 VW Beetle
3. maybe a 55 Chevy Bel Air


« Last Edit: January 16, 2012, 05:02:07 by J. Huber »
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 10:44:00 »
My dream is to have line up of the SL series, from 190 up to the 600 from early nineties. Don't really like the SL shapes after that :)
Afterall, it does not cost to dream:)
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2012, 10:51:17 »
280SL 5 speed, Jaguar E Type 4.2 SII, or the new 230SL Auto coming soon I hope, and I know I am going to be pressured to bring it back to 2 cars in the shed. With my wife only driving Auto, that sets one of them.

Its going to be a really hard decision and one I am dreading.

Garry



You can always store the third one in another place, and every now and then sneak out to spend time with the car. That would not count as having an affair, nor as cheating :)

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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 15:26:44 »
I can't really say any one is first and foremost over the other, they each have their unique pleasures and disappointments.  I don't know which I'd sell first if I had to. 

John,  If I had enough money I'd make your decision easy and you could sell me the 190 SL...
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 02:30:14 »
I would like an E-Type 3.8.  I already have a BMW 3.0 CSI and I'm not sure the Pagoda comes first wheen I comapre the two, at least when it comes to engine and handling. The Pagoda has other qualities: much better build quality and it's a convertible.

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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 03:34:32 »
I do sometimes wish I'd held on that near-perfect 1964 Porsche 356 SC.

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 14:13:41 »
my daily driver is a PDK carrera s-  an awesome machine that is approaching the end of lease-  im giving serious consideration to replacing it with an AMG e63  seems I have a torque thing.

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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 15:26:38 »
my second classic or (youngtimer really) is a 1982 SWB Series III Land Rover that I share with my father and brother for rough jobs like hauling firewood, speedboats, surfboards, stuff to the dump etc. - a very rugged, uncomfortable machine thats really cosy to drive. My dream addition to my garage would be a Series 1 (or 2) Jaguar XJ6 in royal blue with beige leather. This way I would be completely covered - a convertible sports car, a rugged 4x4 and a sofa on wheels.
But the Pagoda would remain my favorite for sure :-)
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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 19:15:18 »
I would like an E-Type 3.8.  I already have a BMW 3.0 CSI and I'm not sure the Pagoda comes first wheen I comapre the two, at least when it comes to engine and handling. The Pagoda has other qualities: much better build quality and it's a convertible.

I also have a BMW 3.0CS, and I agree with the above.  The BMW handles better, is quieter, and has a smoother running, more powerful engine.  But the Pagoda is definitely better built, is more elegant, and the top is much easier to get down.   Both cars are beautiful, in different ways.

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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2012, 20:16:34 »
I also have a BMW 3.0CS, and I agree with the above.  The BMW handles better, is quieter, and has a smoother running, more powerful engine.  But the Pagoda is definitely better built, is more elegant, and the top is much easier to get down.   Both cars are beautiful, in different ways.

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The E9 has a much more modern chassis, drawn from the Neue Klasse that appeared in '62, one year before the Pagoda. The Pagoda is drawn from the W111 chassis that appeared in '59. But there seem to be more than 3 years difference in conception when driving the two. In fact, the BMW was very advanced for the era. MB adopted the same solutions, at least for the rear axle, on the W114. BMW saw it as a confirmation that they had done the right technical choices.

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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2012, 02:18:25 »
I was faced with a decision in 1974.  I had a 1966 911 and the 1967 250SL.  I needed to buy a home for my wife and I. As much as I loved driving the sportier five speed 911, my wife liked the ride and feel of the 250SL which she nick named "Muffy".  So you can see which one  became the keeper. I have been thinking about looking into an early 70's 911E with the similar Bosch mechanical Injection pump. That would be my choice.

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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2012, 03:40:09 »
You all may call me crazy but I always loved the 67-70 mercury cougar. Just got a 1967 xr7 recently to wet my thirst. Still looking for a place to store it. 33k original miles was something I couldnt pass up. I always thought mercury did a good job fusing luxury in with some performance. A good balance that is pleasant to look at and something you dont see at every car show. 
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Re: Pagodas first, what's second, third?
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2012, 21:11:32 »
Good topic.

Ever since I was a teeneager I had always wanted a 911 Turbo.  About 3 years ago I did end up buying a Porsche but I decided on an early 911 instead.  1972 911T in fact.  I just love the pure lines on the car and its so much fun to drive.  Easy to work on too.

I have always adored older Ferraris but they are way out of reach for me.  Something about 12 cylinders unders the hood!!

I was watching the Barett-Jackson auction over the past few days (actually glued to the set) and am astonished at the amount of money being spent by the wealthy collectors.  2M US$ for the Gullwing was probably the highlight of the show for me.  What a stunning car and only about 5,000 original miles on it.  You wonder if it will ever be driven or just sit in a showcase somewhere.

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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2012, 23:17:43 »
Even though I fell in love with the Pagoda when in Germany back in '65 I thought they would be out of reach ($$$) for a B draftsman at North American Aviation so I got really close to getting a 1966 Poppy Yellow 912. Right before I ordered one I thought what the heck, I would see what kind of a deal I could get at the Mercedes Benz dealer. Needless to say, they made a deal that I couldn't turn down and I took delivery of my 250 SL the next spring. I still have a soft spot for that little yellow glorified Volkswaken:-) The original AC Corbra (63-65) MK II would be nice too.

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2012, 02:04:57 »
My other toys include a 66 corvette (nearing the finish line)and a 58 Austin Healy 100/6 (long term project). My daily more reasonable forms of transport are a 99 E320 (runs like a top) and a 2006 E320 CDI (37 mpg all day long), but as stated, my pagoda is tops for fun.

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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2012, 02:45:57 »
sorry our Giants did a job on your 9ners.  Actually I think Williams may deserve a superbowl ring for setting up the winning FG!

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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2012, 20:53:03 »
355 F1 Berlinetta is now in sight.  May have to trade the Porsche for it.  Still have the Longchamp 5-speed and the GT40.  Carling's garage-mate (1970 Series II XKE) is in the shop, where He Who Must Be Obeyed is grinding the body.  I am covering the dash in navy-black leather and making the bits and pieces to fit the boot and sills.  It will be painted, I believe, Quantum Silver (an Aston colour).  The 12-cyl XJS needs some work on the brake system, so it's out of service.
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