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ola

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280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« on: March 18, 2012, 20:28:51 »
w 108 1970. mod. 280 se engine mounted in a pagoda. But it's serious amount of gasoline it seems.
 Could probably have needed a good adjustment insprøytningen.
 how do you do this?
 who adjusts the insprøytnings pumps?
 it can adjust without it being in the engine?
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Re: 280 see engine mounted in a pagoda. But it's serious amount of gasoline it seems
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 21:13:45 »
Ola,
What Miles Per Gallon are you getting?  15 to 17 mpg in the city and 19 to 21 mpg highway driving is good for these cars.  (Sorry I don't have a metric conversion chart handy)  We need more explanation of your problems to offer suggestions.

There are several threads on this site about the Fuel Injeciton Pump.  Some deal with adjustment and others with overhaul.  You really need to understand the entire Fuel/Ignition relationship on these cars.  It is complex and takes some time to master.

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ola

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Re: 280 see engine mounted in a pagoda. But it's serious amount of gasoline it seems
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 21:20:29 »
where do I buy a reconditioned?
 price?
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Tom Colitt

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Re: 280 see engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2012, 06:05:10 »
Ola. As a rule of thumb 90% of the people do not need there injection pumps completely rebuilt. Often getting them back near the factory settings, (linkages, venturi, ignition, warm running device, etc.) makes a huge difference. You should have no trouble using the 280SE engine.... Just don't use the engine mount from the 280SL in the Pagoda....
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ola

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Re: 280 see engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2012, 08:05:32 »
280 engine is mounted in the Pagoda. spend a lot of gasoline
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Tom Colitt

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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 23:27:47 »
How are the spark plugs. Very Black?.....
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ola

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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 08:17:43 »
Very Black
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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 06:11:21 »
Hi Ola,

In Norway, Oppegård elektrodiesel used to be able to do adjustments and rebuilds on these injection pumps, but unfotunately as of
lately thats not possible anymore, since guy who did this is now retired. Koller und Schwemmer in Germany can do this
if that is what really is needed. They only do complete rebuilds and i think they charge around 4-5000EUR for a pump for the pagoda.
But as Tom suggests there are a lot of items that should be checked before you decide to pull the IP.

Hans


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ola

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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2012, 07:28:36 »
you have a link / address Schwemmer in Germany
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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2012, 19:30:28 »
Here you go...

http://www.koller.de/
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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2012, 19:53:49 »
If a rebuild really costs 4000-5000 EU then it's probably worth sending it to the US where it can be done for $1200 which is sub 1000 EU.
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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 00:19:43 »
I have a pump R24Y I have tested runs great $750.00 plus shipping let me know.
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Tom Colitt

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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2012, 02:19:24 »
It's sounds like you're running rich. Try removing one of the thin washers that are between the cylindrical vacuum box next to the warm running stack and the top of the injection pump. The less washers the leaner the mixture across the whole range....
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ola

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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2012, 08:38:26 »
cylindrical vacuum box

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Re: 280 SE engine mounted in a pagoda
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2012, 20:22:48 »
It is a fairly big cylinder, right on top of the injection pump and next to the warm running stack with the two 19mm coolant hoses. You need a flattened 19mm (or22?) to loosen it from below the cylinder...
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