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Jim Donati

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Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« on: July 24, 2012, 01:19:17 »
I need to replace the battery in my 1970 280SL.  Is it true that MB no longer has a replacement that fits our cars?     The technical manual indicates part # 003 541 33 01 is what should be used if one would like to keep a vehicle correct and original.  Below are the choices for non-Mercedes-Benz batteries available listed in the Technical Manual?

Battery   LxWxH (mm)   LxWxH (in)   Notes
Orignal   260 x 180 x 222   10-1/4 x 6-13/16 x 8-3/4   Varta/MB pn 003 541 33 01
BCI 24F   273 x 173 x 229   10-3/4 x 6-13/16 x 9   Longer and taller than original size
BCI 24R   260 x 173 x 229   10-1/4 x 6-13/16 x 9   Taller than original size
BCI 34R   260 x 173 x 200   10-1/4 x 6-13/16 x 7-7/8   Closest match to original size


 The Classic Center told my mechanic the original battery is "no longer available".  I would prefer to replace my battery with a genuine Mercedes-Benz battery that is correct and proper.

So, keeping in mind that originality outweighs the price,  who can enlighten me on what choices I have in my replacement search?

Thanks for your help.

Jim

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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 01:25:35 »
Did you try the regular parts route through the MB dealer? When I replaced mine MB battery a few years ago, I just went to the local MB store, and a couple of weeks later, voila! In doing a quick search (the search function is your friend). I did see the part number you mentioned (003 541 33 01) mentioned. I believe that is what I have.

You may want to check to check www.antiqueautobattery.com, an outfit out of Hudson, Ohio (my old stomping grounds) that does the original battery styles.

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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2012, 20:51:08 »
In regards the Impex Co. selling the batteries in the post above:
Their listing says shipping for that item is not an option; local pickup only at their facility in Cockeysville, Maryland.   FWIW, Cockeysville is close by I-83 and ~5 miles outside Baltimore's beltway to the north of the city. 
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2012, 15:22:21 »
I did not try my local MB dealer as Johnny suggests, although my mechanic searched through them and the classic center in irvine.  I think I will have to make a few calls myself to satisfy my own curiosity. 

I do know I won't be driving to Maryland any time soon, so jkalplus1's tip won't work for me.   

My search of websites that offer batteries for older classic cars did not find any that offered ones for Mercedes-Benz replacements.

Thanks to those who have replied, but I am still looking for what others have done entry to replace their battery.

Jim


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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 13:18:13 »
Jim,

Legend has it that OEM Mercedes batteries are not of the highest quality, though I did buy one that lasted for 6 years and was not "tended" to in the winter.  They are also expensive, as you would imagine.

The only reason to use one is if you are trying to enter a Concours where period-look or OEM accuracy is important.  If you are doing it just for yourself you are going down an expensive path for a certain look that 95% of the time is simply covered up by the hood.  The new OEM battery for the Pagoda is white plastic and does not resemble the original battery once delivered with the car 40 years ago.

There is a guy in Camden New Jersey, Bob Platz, of Precision Auto Works that has a well known reputation of putting together restored prize winning Mercedes, and he has re-created some vintage batteries.

Precision Auto Works     
2202 Federal St
Camden, NJ 08105
Neighborhoods: Cramer Hill, Marlton
(856) 966-0080

Understand that just shipping anything like this is likely to cost a bundle, not to mention the cost of the battery itself.  You'll then have to take it somewhere for additional cost, to have it charged with acid.  They have to ship dry.

If you don't show your car and don't need the Concours points, an Optima gel is the way to go.
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 21:43:46 »
If you really want an original appearing battery, you might contact Tom Colitt (on this list).  He had a couple made in Europe a while back.

I agree with Mike, though -- a really original battery isn't worth the trouble.  I had one of the new white Mercedes batteries, which lasted a little over 6 years.  But the price has gone up incredibly, and I replaced it with an Interstate (which I pasted the Mercedes label on).

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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2013, 16:00:55 »
I just bought a battery for my 280SL project.  The part number for the Mercedes battery with cell caps and non-sunken posts is 003-541-33-01-26.  If you try to buy this battery, you may run into some confusion because the dealer parts system will point to a diiferent battery with sunken posts and that is too big to fit.  But stand your ground and tell your dealer to call the Classic Center because the correct one is available.

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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2013, 16:08:10 »
Chuck:

What color is the battery?

Jim
« Last Edit: February 24, 2013, 00:01:32 by Donati »

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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2013, 16:50:43 »
I just bought a new battery, which I haven't yet installed, and decided to go the AGM route so I don't have to worry about leaks and subsequent corrosion.  It measures 256 x 168 x 220H and comes with a 5 year full replacement warranty.  It's my first AGM so I'll see how it goes.  ;D
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2013, 23:27:08 »
I can get all of the batteries I want from my WD but I have to pick them up as they are delivered wet and UPS won't handle them. Oddly, the price went down last year. ???

 Likely the same price as a year ago before they dropped the price for 6 months.  ::)
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2013, 00:31:53 »
Jordan,
which brand AGM did you buy? Sears, Optima?
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2013, 01:59:33 »
Alfred, it is a local brand (like Sears but not) but it is made by Exide.  I have two Optima's, which I also just purchased, for my other car.   I chose the Optima's for the other car because they fit the box (smaller size) and had the specs I wanted.
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2013, 13:55:07 »
The battery has a white case.
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 16:24:05 »
Darn, that is what I suspected.  I was hoping you might have found a replacement that was black like the original.

Anybody know why MBZ switched to white battery cases and no longer offer one in black for our W113 cars?

Jim

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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2015, 12:30:23 »
Talked to Tom at the MB classic center,  he says the  replacement is 002-541-87-01-26


called the dealer, at almost $200 i think I will be looking in to alternates
« Last Edit: May 04, 2015, 23:42:06 by merrill »
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2015, 16:01:46 »
Hi,

I asked people at Bosch stand in Techno Classica Essen about the battery. They said they will start produce 12V classic black battery in the November.


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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2015, 16:29:15 »
Quote from: Artur
.../... Bosch.../... said they will start produce 12V classic black battery in the November
Artur,
That certainly was interesting information. Would you know what this battery is supposed to look like? I hope, similar to the illustration in the Parts book (see attached)?
Are the dimensions compatible to our Pagoda cars? Height 200mm   Width  180mm   Length  260mm
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2015, 17:21:46 »
There is a lot of old information in this thread.
This current info might help someone looking into batteries.
I just purchased, from my local Mercedes dealer, battery 002 541 87 01 26 (current MB replacement battery for our cars, but it is white in color).
For some unexplained reason, the price has come down on this dramatically.
Maybe because it was the last one in the country and they just wanted to get rid of it? But there are more of them in Europe.
I paid US$152 plus tax ($164 total). This was the "regular" price.
It fits perfect in the original location AND starts the car.  ;)
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2015, 17:31:43 »
Hans,

I asked people at Bosch stand in Essen. They told me that battery will look like the one on the attached picture.
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2015, 08:54:41 »
Looks like the "classic line" only refers to 6V batteries ... ???
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2015, 17:41:46 »
Hi Philmas,
yes, that's true, all about 6V, but I've asked Bosch Automotive today when the 12V version will be available. Their answer: End of 2015/beginning of 2016 they will offer the 12V versions.
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2015, 15:48:45 »
OK! wait and see, then... :)
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Re: Original Mercedes battery - no longer available?
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2015, 22:29:16 »
I broke down and just bought an MB battery
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