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Re: speedometer
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2012, 04:05:14 »
Thank you guys this time I loughed loud.
I accept the beer invitation with pleasure next time.
Beating Aussie people by french happened maybe once on a rugby field during all story but I'm not even sure.

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2012, 09:23:21 »
I agree with stopping the wipers in the vertical position, you must also then disconnect the battery.
If you accidently start the wipers when your hand is up behind the dasboard it is going to hurt
big time :-\
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Re: speedometer
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2012, 10:00:57 »
Hello, all

Thanks for all these advices and suggestions.

We may have our personal opinion on the "official" language of the forum, but finally, this discussion seems to attract a lot of interest.
It means at least that a lot of us had problems with their instruments, and that there are different ways and means to get through them.
That's why this forum is very useful.

I get my speedo out from the dash by reaching it from the glove box hole (you have to engage your arm, but it is possible to get to the knurled nut).
I had no problem with the wipers mechanism.  It appears that the problem is only for RHD cars.
I also will have no difficulty with the oil pipe(or the temperature sensor) in the central unit, as I didn't disconnect or touch it. This was the main reason why I preferred to get to the speedo from the right side.
Let me drive the car and check the cable, and we will see what will be the next step.
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Re: speedometer
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2012, 11:11:10 »
I also will have no difficulty with the oil pipe(or the temperature sensor) in the central unit, as I didn't disconnect or touch it. This was the main reason why I preferred to get to the speedo from the right side.

You don't need to disconnect anything from the central unit. you can push it out enough to access the nut behind the speedo. (for next time, when your heater lever system wille back in place).

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2012, 17:24:19 »
GGR,

The part number for the speedo cable is A1135420507.
It is available from MB classic, and I found some on Ebay at around half price.

But the pics on Ebay seem to show the full cable (inner and outer cables together).
How did you proceed ? did you replace only the inner cable or both ?

To saleen :

You are right, turning the wipers could provide a little more room.
I could be useful to put back the speedo in place.

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2012, 17:48:55 »
My case is a bit special as m car is fittted with a Getrag 265 transmission and the cable is not the same. So I will leave it to others to chime in with their experience.

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2013, 09:43:27 »
End of the story.

I ordered a new speedo cable, but, and had a mechanic to replace the old one.

He told me that the bolt which is supposed to hold the end of the cable to the gearbox was missing.
In fact, maybe it wasn't even necessary to replace the cable (and, of course to take off the speedo from the dash).

My advice : if your speedo doesn't work, the first thing to do is check that the cable is well linked to the output of the gearbox, and only then get to the other end.
This will save you a lot of work, hassle and money.

The speedometer is now working, and I have just to put everything back on the dashboard (heater unit, clock, radio and glove box).
The next step will be to fix the tachometer "screaming" (I hope some oil will be enough).

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2013, 18:01:16 »
Gentlemen,
I like to learn at every opportunity, and that includes languages. I hope I'm not alone in requesting, where you have the capability, to post in English AND your native language. That way we can all follow the discussion and those that are inclined can get some additional educational benefit!
What's the French for "happy spannering"? ;D

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2013, 19:31:38 »
What's the French for "happy spannering"? ;D

Bon bricolage !

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2013, 16:07:30 »
Merci!

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2013, 17:29:38 »
Merci!


D’ailleurs, en bricolant sur le bord de la route, il faut bien faire attention à ne pas se prendre la cravate dans la courroie du ventilateur ! (ce qui nécessiterait tout de même quelques contorsions avec un Pagode !)

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2013, 21:30:08 »
I'm afraid the last post isn't compliant with my request to post in both languages and therefore offers nothing in the way of education!

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2013, 22:09:22 »
Well well well, it's saying that in case you're happy spannering by the side of the road, you should make sure not to get your tie into the fan belt ! (though this would involve some interesting contortions to get in such a situation with a Pagoda).

As per learning, given that you're posting in your native language, you should choose a foreign language in which you would translate all your posts. You would become bilangual in no time !
« Last Edit: February 14, 2013, 22:15:33 by GGR »

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2013, 09:30:28 »
Grazi! ;D

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2013, 19:24:24 »
GGR

tout dépend si lesdites contorsions se font en présence d'une jolie dame qui - par définition - se trouve sur le siège passager ou non... :D
it all depends if such contortions are performed in the presence of a pretty lady who - by definition - is located on the passenger site or not…   :D
to zaleźy czy wspomniane wygibasy są wykonywane w obecności urodziwej pani, która - z definicji - znajduje się na fotelu pasazera, czy nie...  :D
es hängt alles davon, wenn solche Verrenkungen in der Gegenwart von einer hübschen Dame, die - per Definition - auf dem Beifahrersitz befindet oder nicht... :D 
eso depende de si tales contorsiones se realizan en presencia de una guapa señora que - por definición - se encuentra en el sitio del pasajero o no...  :D

here is what could be a multilingual SL113 website ;D 
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Re: speedometer
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2013, 20:33:29 »
tutto dipende se tali contorsioni sono eseguite in presenza di una bella signora che - per definizione - si trova sul sedile del passeggero o no ...  :D

Avec le pare-brise au milieu, ça serait quand même du sportif ! Manquerait plus que le capot se referme !

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2013, 23:42:38 »
Dear all,

Back in the early days, this site had both an English speaking section and a Spanish speaking forum. Partly because it was a Yahoo based forum, and partly because we had a Spanish board member. After about a year the Spanish forum had about 80 messages, and the main, English speaking forum about 3000. Most of the Spanish threads died with a link to an English message with "the answer".

When I needed to conserve space on the forum (as we ran out with the software package) we all decided to kill the Spanish section.

Garry, there is nothing in the rules to prevent people from posting in their native language. However, ultimately it will die out as the majority of answers will be in English, even if the question is not asked in English.

So for those who read all messages, a bunch of messages in a language they cannot understand is boring... That's why we try to keep messages in English, the Lingua Franca of this site.Sure, I could produce a French section, or a Dutch one (we have enough space now) but it will wither on the vine just like the Spanish one.

So please all play along. Post in your own language if you must... But if you like an answer please add English.

Remember: Google Translate is not up to every job yet!

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2013, 01:04:34 »
So why is it we start to get foreign language spam that needs to be removed in the morning?
« Last Edit: February 16, 2013, 07:05:53 by Garry »
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Re: speedometer
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2013, 04:28:41 »
We were just having a light conversation among polyglot pagoda enthusiasts. Qualifying it of spamming is quite derogatory. No need to remove anything, there is nothing inapropriate.

I agree with Peter, the lingua franca is English, and these short parentheses in foreign languages will die by themselves, no need to open any section in any other languages. But the group is what it is, gathering people from various origins, and this is part of its richness. Various cultures are represented, and some members who are interested in other's cultures have made the effort of learning their language, and like exchanging in it. I realize it may be a challenge to moderate in languages one does not understand, but we're among civilized people, and some flexibility and a little trust may apply.   
« Last Edit: February 16, 2013, 04:46:16 by GGR »

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Re: speedometer
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2013, 05:24:41 »
GGR

I think you missed what I was asking Peter, and your fine use of language appears to confirm that.

 What most members don't see is that over night the forum gets spammed from all over the world. 2332 as at todays date. Our filters stop most and people like me, given that I am up when you are asleep, then clean up our forum pages of the spams that do not get stopped by the filters.  Every time people put new languages on here we seem to then get a rise in  spammings in that language going on for the following weeks.  The spam today that got through was in French for Feng Shui items out of China.  I didn't clean it off so that you could see what was happening, Peter did it instead, obviously before you got to see it in the "Other Cars" area.  Having had more than 35 years in the Australian Defence Force, more than half of it in non English Countries, I have spent a lot of time in Language Schools learning four different languages. Including three years in USA.  I think I know more than most about cultural norms and the use of a foreign language.

So the question was, why is it that we appear to get hit with spamming every time someone does postings here in a foreign language.

I dont know the answer, I sought out Peter as I thought Peter with his background would.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2013, 05:58:00 by Garry »
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Re: speedometer
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2013, 09:25:38 »
Garry,

Your post changed my perception of what the use of other languages than English may have in a forum like ours. So let's forget the "French touch" or "Spanish linguistic corridas", not even mentioning (in my case ;)) any Polish jokes ;)
But seriously, your explanation gives another dimension and perspective to the work The Board members do. However, I think that after your post, the rest of us, humble forum post-typers would be scared like hell to postulate for the job for the next several terms...

By the way, it is interesting that you went to USA to study languages…. So - out of the four - American would be one of them… I guess?
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« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2013, 10:18:39 »
Same here, I had missed that completely and misinterpreted your post. Sorry for that. I didn't know about the spamming issue. Thanks for clearing that up and for the good work.

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« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2013, 12:05:39 »
Stan,

Lived in Kampuchea, Egypt and Israel and the final one for only two years in 1999-2000 was Malaysia due to the East Timor deployments plus three years in Philadelphia. Thankfully I only had to adapt to the US language. Defence has its own language school that you have to go to for 3 - 6 months at a time prior to posting to these places. Great life if you want to see the world.  Difficult to settle down in a 'home town'

And I am nominating you both to go on to the Board in the next round of elections in a year or so.  Will be needing a new Membership Secretary for the 'non Americas. :o
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Re: speedometer
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2013, 16:59:00 »
Working both in Egypt and in Israel with a military perspective must have been an interesting experience.

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« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2013, 21:59:56 »

Shot at in one and stoned in the other, literally :o.

But we have digressed from the original speedo problem of JMB ;D
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