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Engine Rebuild
« on: January 08, 2013, 07:13:05 »
Its almost there.  Maybe back in the car next week or so.
Garry Marks
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 10:01:00 »
Looking good Garry, not long now ;D ;D
Looks like a nice 280SL in the background.
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 13:29:18 »
Garry,

I LOVE the "just cast" look of the exhaust manifolds!  So perfect in color, so flawless!

Though it wasn't perfectly clear in the photo, it looks like there is some corrosion on the water (coolant) hose connections behind the water pump?  Better double check that.  It appears that there is a lot of pitting from the photo, which makes a good seal difficult and also might indicate a bit of "punkiness" to the metal.  I've had more than a few aluminum, zinc, and or magnesium parts crumble...
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 13:55:43 »
This is what I call winter season well spent :)
Hope to be back soon with something as clean as the beauty Garry got for himself. 

I am to send these pictures to my mechanic that renovates my engine, gearbox and suspension. If my engine looks not as good as this one, his bonus will fade away faster than Garry's Pagoda at full sped:-)
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 19:11:55 »
I had not previously realized that the exhaust manifolds point to opposite direction in RHD car (down under)... ;)

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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 19:17:06 »
I had not previously realized that the exhaust manifolds point to opposite direction in RHD car (down under)... ;)

Good one Petri.  :D

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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 20:29:17 »
Yes, Gary, I think they are on backwards.  It will be much easier to switch them now than once in the car.

I had not previously realized that the exhaust manifolds point to opposite direction in RHD car (down under)... ;)

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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 20:35:15 »
Garry,
are you also rebuilding gearbox and other elements?
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 20:36:08 »
Sorry, Guys,

The exhaust manifolds are correctly installed for RHD.

The mod was done to bypass the steering box which would be in the way if LHD manifolds were used  :'( :'(

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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 20:43:01 »
Thanks Guys,

There was some pitting on the metal but I have some special compound, cannot remember its name, that I am going to use on the joints that ensures a good seal with the hoses. A couple of a parts had to be replaced but those in the picture just passed for thickness.

I have done up the front end in total but the gearbox was good so am leaving it alone. Re chromed a lot and a repaint as well and some wide wide white walls to be fitted to finish it off.

Petri,

Its a special Australian version.  LOL :D :D :D  Looking forward to getting it in the car to see if it rolls or hops ;)
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 21:39:26 »
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 22:47:23 »
Sorry, Guys,

The exhaust manifolds are correctly installed for RHD.

The mod was done to bypass the steering box which would be in the way if LHD manifolds were used  :'( :'(

Naj

Learned something new. Again.  :-[

But the engine sure looks beautiful  :)

p
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 10:10:43 »
Garry the total finish looks great, how nice to see the alloy un-polished.

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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 10:22:23 »
magnifico Garry  can't wait to see it in person....
I have no idea what you all mean about upside downunder inside out .....
all seems normal to me...

Joe in Melbourne

ps. the upside down writing really made me laugh....but I had to turn the laptop upside down to read it which proved to me that we are the correct way up ;)
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 10:29:32 »
The Aussies must have a special Windows Office package to write up side down. I suspected it had to be that way but never saw it in real. Thanks, it boosted my own education :D 
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2013, 11:00:14 »
Stan,

It was 280SE guy that wrote the upside down, from USA, always thought they drove on the wrong side of the road, now I know they write the wrong way as well. :D :D :D

Good trick though.

Am still debating whether to put a mat clear coat on the metals as well but at this point nothing. Certainly don't want to polish it, it has cost a fortune to get all the cad plating, dipping and peening done to look like original not to mention the six months to get all the bits apart, replaced where necessary and back together and that is not classed as doing it to concourse standard, that would have doubled the cost and I wasn't going there.  I live on a dirt road, the first day I drive it home I am back to scratch!!!

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Garry Marks
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2013, 18:14:42 »
LOL, Sorry Garry,

nevertheless, when I lived in the UK, the first month I couldn't stop thinking how many wasted cars there were on the road ;D
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2013, 21:03:25 »
Hi Garry, as everyone has posted – it’s looking fantastic and may well be the becnchmark for my own.   I now understand why Reinhardt didn’t want to have my car in his workshop for a while – he’s too busy working on yours!

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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2013, 00:57:29 »
Gary,

There is three in the queue waiting including my old 280SL but he does a good job. I just had to source most of the parts and that took ages. Hope to fire it up by months end.

For John Thelews or Michael Salemi, have either of you put any clear finish coats on the engine? and if so what paint did you use?

Garry
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2013, 18:01:52 »
Michael Salemi, have either of you put any clear finish coats on the engine? and if so what paint did you use?

None were added beyond what might have been done by Metric Motors, he who rebuilt my engine so long ago now.
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2013, 18:23:07 »
Garry check the photo of my 230sl in photo gallery listed 4th March last year of engine.I bead blasted alloy parts,washed,warmed with heat gun then applied two coats of 'CRC Dry Glide' allow to dry and you will get a nice finish that will not mark or stain easily.Have used this on restos for many years with good results.

Mine also has the exhaust manifolds on upside down !!!!
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2013, 20:23:41 »
Garry, attached are photos taken at last years Essen show. They were taken on the Grosser of Germanys stand and I thought they were top standard, and still do. I think you should be very pleased with your result.

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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2013, 21:28:33 »
Neil,

Those photos make me feel happy with how it is going so far. Always said that if I could get it to half as good as some I had seen than I would be satisfied.

Lloyd,  did you put the CRC Dry Glide on after all the parts were together so including the hoses etc?

Garry
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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2013, 22:19:27 »
 I drool with envy when I see pictures like these. Maybe someday I will return my engine to like new condition. I always tried to keep the engine bay clean but over the years the plating has faded and a  fair amount of oily grime on the block and under carriage has accumulated. The only problem in doing so is I wouldn't be able to drive the car and that is sure a lot more fun ;). Nice job Garry and keep us posted on restoration.

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Re: Engine Rebuild
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2013, 22:20:59 »
Both are very nice rebuilds but I'm suprised that the slots in the fuel pump cover plate screws on the Grosser rebuild are not in alignment.

Yeah, I know, nitpicky.
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