Heater Blower

[lawdawg]

Does anyone have a working heater blower for a 1965 230 SL?

[Tomnistuff]

I don`t know what MB units cost now, but in 1990, I needed one for my 67 230SL.  I couldn`t afford a MB motor so I shopped the autoparts catalogs - manually - before the internet.  My 23 year-old receipt says the one I bought was for a Dodge M880.  Mine is right now out of the car for car restoration so I measured some stuff on it and compared it to what I found on the internet.  All the dimensions, as far as I can determine match the one at the following site.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/details/QQDodgeQQ880QQ4-SeasonsQQBlower_MotorQQ19631964QQFS35500.html

The only difference I can find is that mine has red, orange, blue and black wires.  I`m not using the blue wire.  The motor at auto parts warehouse looks like it has only two wires.  maybe it has an internal ground, which would make it work, I think.

Anyway, it`s probably lots cheaper than the MB unit.  In 1990, it was hundreds cheaper.  Mine is still working perfectly.  I think I had to cut the end off the extended shafts because they were too long.

I should have checked if the Technical Manual has a recommendation for an interchangeable part, but I forgot.  Good luck.

Tom Kizer

[George Des]

I sold one with a rewound armature on enay about two months ago for cheap. Some parts like this are almost impossible to find at a reasonable price. One of the reasons I sometimes end up buying something I don't  really need at the time but can see a time when I might

[stickandrudderman]

I bought one from Mercedes recently at an eye-watering £1100.00. Yes, one thousand one hundred pounds!!!

[George Des]

Yes, unfortunately this is one of those parts that for the OEM part, the price is out of sight. Fortunately, there are some motors out there that can be adapted to fit. Being hidden in the place it is, no one needs to be the wiser that it is not the original. We aren't so lucky with other parts like the cooling water thermostat on the 230Sl fuel injector pump. Have seen these advertised new for about $900 when they can be found.

[Tomnistuff]

Given that new pricing news, and given that my 1990 replacement is sitting on a table beside my computer in perfect running condition, I will take the time to disassemble the motor/fan module and find any markings that exist on the motor.  I couldn't find anything on the receipt except the description M880 which leads me to believe it was for a Dodge.

Because it's now so important, I'll go the final distance and examine it more closely.

I'll be back with you all shortly.

Tom Kizer

[Tomnistuff]

Here`s what I found.

EVERCO
Skokie, Ill U.S.A.
2587682
EVERCO M8808  12V
E 2807-510-079   (-----

I also found nothing like that on the web, probably because that particular model is no longer made.  I searched by characteristics and dimensions and found something that i have enough confidence in that I would not hesitate to buy it myself.  Here`s what I found for us all.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Everco-A-C-Heater-Blower-Motor/_/N-91sgzZ1z138q4?itemIdentifier=913204_0_6648_&newYmme=true

If you want to see several really nice photos of it, it is part number 35501 on the following Rock Auto site.    

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=814633

Rock Auto`s price is $37.79 U.S.  Autozone`s price (at a Detroit store) is $35.99.

Congratulations on saving $1064.01.

I`ve done my good deed for the day.

If you see one on Ebay identified for a Mercedes at a high price, pass the word to avoid it.

By the way, it was not for a Dodge apparently.  M880 was a part of the old motor model number in 1990 when I bought it.  The Rock Auto version is a Four Seasons with the same generic part number.
 

Tom Kizer

[66andBlue]

Hi Tom,
in earlier discussions here there was a recommendation for a FASCO Model DC135 motor but then it was mentioned that it draws too much current. It is now NLA and was replaced by Siemens PM393: http://www.emotorpro.com/12-volt-dc-double-shafted-3-speed-3-diameter-motor---pm393.aspx. I am not sure how many amps this one draws.

I could not find any spec for the motor you found but since it is made not far from you by SMP Unimotor:
http://www.unimotor.com/Original%20Equipment-Blower%20and%20Cooling%20Fan%20Motors/Content.aspx
perhaps you might be able to get the info. 

[mdsalemi]

In a former life, having motors rebuilt was something I had done regularly, and curiously, in places as far flung as Bangkok and Brussels, and throughout the USA.  For larger HP motors the cost was generally a fraction of what replacement was.

Fractional HP DC motors can also be rebuilt, but when a suitable replacement (maybe with some minor modifications) can be purchased for less than $100, rebuilding doesn't look so attractive--unless your comparison is that >$1K MB replacement.

For years, Bud's Benz (check vendor list) has offered a replacement, and it's in their catalog for $189 or so. I don't know if this is an off the shelf replacement (such as those listed by Tom and Alfred) or one already modified for a drop-in fit with no additional work necessary...but it is worth a look or a talk with Bud's.

[George Des]

If you've got the old one, you can get the armature rewound with a new commutator for less than $200.00. This with a  new set of brushes and you should be as good as new. Eurton Electric in California can do the rewind and new brushes. I've used them to rewind the fuel pump armatures. They are quick, fairly inexpensive and do quality work. You can check them out on their internet site.

George

[enochbell]

Just got home, didn't want to speculate on what I THOUGHT I might have in the parts closet, but I have one if you still need it.

Greg