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Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« on: July 31, 2004, 15:27:09 »
So lets see? what other classic cars would guys like to own?
I know the other two I like. They would be an 812 supercharged cord
convertible, lamborghini miura.

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2004, 15:44:31 »
It's a long list, so I will only list the ones I am fairly passionate about:

1. Ferrari Daytona coupe
2. 1967 Mustang 350 GT Fastback, preferably with some Shelby mods
3. Lamborghini 350 GT 2+2
4. 1970 Chevy Blazer K/5 (convertible) or, similar, Jeep CJ5 (with some lift and a bikini top)
5. Porsche 356, coupe or convertible
6. Jaguar E-type 2+2
7. Lancia Fulvia (preferably HF) about 1970
nos. 8 thru 10: More Pagodas

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2004, 15:49:52 »
Cees have you seen then add for the 230sl that john lennon use to
own? up for $1000.000 YES that much no kidding at classy autos.
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2004, 15:50:38 »
Must be a typo Red!

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1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2004, 15:52:25 »
Have you seen the add I'm talking about?

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2004, 15:59:00 »
No I haven't but I counted 6 zeros in your post, so that would be $1 million. If that is true, then I guess they figure, "if you don't ask for it, you'll never get it"!
They'll never get it.

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'69 white 280 SL automatic
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1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
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1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
1983 Porsche 944 2.5
1990 Ford Bronco II

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2004, 16:04:42 »
someone told me they got $875.000, don't know if this is true.
have a look at the site? might be gone www.classyauto.com
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2004, 16:49:18 »
I stand corrected - I still don't think this car would sell for much more than $100,000 though:

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1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
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1990 Ford Bronco II

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2004, 20:12:42 »
I guess I have to admit that a Ferrari would be something that I would like to add to the garage. A 328 or 308. quattrovalvole would be within the realm of the attianable. There is just some special aura about that that darn prancing horse.

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2004, 22:01:43 »
I would want a 1961 - 1963 300sl roadster. 8)   As for John Lennon's car I first saw this pictured in John Olson's sl market letter where it mentioned the highest price paid for a Pagoda. The car sold for over $100,000.00 U.S.D.

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2004, 22:15:21 »
The cars I would like to buy but will have to wait a while are the Ferrari 275 GTS and the Mercedes 300SL Roadster. Next week I am taking a serious look at a 1989 Porsche Cabriolet SuperSport Edition (Black Metallic with Tan Interior) in Newport Beach, California still owned by the original owner with 40,000 original miles.

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2004, 09:02:21 »
It seems we have some very exotic fantasies. Before reaching my decision that a Pagoda was the car for me I was contemplating an Austin Healey 3000. The power to weight ratio is superior to our Pagodas. An excellent mechanic asked me why do the British drink warm beer? The answer was because they have Lucas refrigerators. The Lucas electronics in Austin Healey's do not have the reputation for reliabilty that our Bosch systems do. I believe the engineering of our vehicles is exceptional.
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2004, 10:38:33 »
I have spent more $$$ than I care to think about and nearly three years having an exact original GT40 built. We are about half done, perhaps a little more as the engine is finished (not dynoed, though) and the monocoque and body are built. We are sorting out all the various bits for the suspension and drive train, etc.
   The GT40 has been first on my list of desirable cars to own since I was a teenager, which is now a very long time. The original Mark 1 car is every bit as much as a classic design as the 113 Mercedes. They were fast, reliable and exciting cars, although not terribly practical. (no room for anything other than people, leak in rain, poor visibility rearwards, etc). Modern versions and updates address the ventilation issues etc, and the pushrod Ford V8 now makes even more power with new head and cam designs, EFI, etc. The one thing that most do not change is the body. It is already so astonishingly beautiful that most people just pick a paint color and concentrate on getting the car on the road.
   Also long time favorites: 289 (not 427) AC Cobra, Ferrari 275GTS, Cord 810/812 (these are better in the unblown form, I think), Ferrari 288GTO, classic Mini-Cooper. vintage Triumph Bonneville (OK,half the wheels but twice the fun), and BMW R90S or R100S (again half the wheels).
   Many cars you THINK you might want to own and drive turn out to be dogs. My 111 280SE convertible was a disappointment. And my older 1970s Mini kind of likewise. My late-model Euro classic Mini, though, with EFI, better brakes, better interior, but still only 10 ft long is one of my all-time favorites.
    Sorry for the long-winded post... :oops:

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2004, 10:42:25 »
Oh, and YES!!! an E-Jag, preferably a Series 1 convertible, as you say, Cees. Wonderful cars and with some updates a thoroughly reliable and enjoyable daily driver.
   As an addendum to my post above, if you EVER have a chance to ride in a 288GTO Ferrari, do not miss that chance. If I could own ONE Ferrari in my entire lifetime, it would be a 288. If you ever get a ride in one, or get to drive one, you will never ever forget it.

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2004, 15:21:50 »
Yep! And the reason that the Concorde supersonic aircraft ultimately only plied transatlantic routes was because the Lucas Avionics were only certified for 6 hours continuous operation!

I remember reading once that the car that the M-B engineers most respected back in the 60's was the Austin-Healey 3000.  It was rugged, reliable and went like stink.  Eugen Boehringer fought many a close duel with the big Healeys on the rally circuit.

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It seems we have some very exotic fantasies. Before reaching my decision that a Pagoda was the car for me I was contemplating an Austin Healey 3000. The power to weight ratio is superior to our Pagodas. An excellent mechanic asked me why do the British drink warm beer? The answer was because they have Lucas refrigerators. The Lucas electronics in Austin Healey's do not have the reputation for reliabilty that our Bosch systems do. I believe the engineering of our vehicles is exceptional.
regards,
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2004, 03:53:06 »
Here's my wish list:
1) Jag E-Type convertible series I
2) Ferrari Dino 246 GTS
3) BMW 3.0 CSL
4) Porsche 911 Carrera RS

But for now i'm still working on getting a decent Pagoda. Hopefully soon.
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2004, 05:45:07 »
Very near term:

Series 1 or 1.5 E-type FHC

Longer term:

Any DB4, DB5, or SWB DB6 Aston Martin
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2004, 06:56:09 »
here is the list

Ferrari BB512
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2004, 07:31:16 »
Has to be a Ferrari 196x 250 GTO. Sexiest lines ever put into sheet metal. I am with Jim on the GT40, that was something special. I cant wait to see the first GT on the road. In the realistic relm, I have a big jones for a 911. Love the body styling. If you haven't figured it out yet, I need the long fenders arching over the headlights and a lump in the hood doesn't hurt. Thus, the Pagoda!

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2004, 08:47:48 »
If you don't feel like spending the tens of millions needed to buy a nice GTO, here's a very nice Scaglietti-bodied exact GTO repro for sale in CT for around the price of a Gullwing:

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2004, 09:11:28 »
Lets see!! to start a new Mercedes-Benz SLR
                          ford new GT
                          Lotus Eleise GT
                          250SL 5 speed 904 blue with parchment                  leather
                          Mercedes-Benz 6.9.
                          New Saleen Mustang converible Black
                          Mercedes Benz C111 series 3
                          one of the 29 alloy body 300SL gull wings
                          540 K special roadster
                         
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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2004, 10:21:57 »
Well, for starters, I'd take either Malek's or Jans' freshly unveiled Pagoda! (see Picture Gallery!)

I guess after all these years, I've developed tunnel vision ... oh well  :)

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2004, 10:42:45 »
I would choose only Mercedes cars, just to not change of dealer  ;) :

MB in production:

1) Mercedes-Benz SLR-McLaren, in black color (the coupé)
2) Mercedes-Benz CL 600 (the coupé for 4)
3) Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG (the cabrio)
4) Mercedes-Benz E 55 K AMG Station Wagon (the "van")
5) Mercedes-Benz G 500 Short Wheel Base (the 4x4)
6) Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM AMG (580 HP just for fun...)

Other MB:

1) Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR "Uhlenhaut Coupé" (1955)
2) If MB doesn't want to sell option 1)  ;) , then: a "simple" 300 SL "Gullwing"
3) Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR Street Version
4) Mercedes-Benz 500 SL (R 129)
5) Mercedes-Benz 500 E (W124)
6) Mercedes-Benz 540K "Autobahn Kurier" (1938)

To dream is so easy... but once you own a Pagoda, you can live without all these cars!  :)

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Re: Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2004, 11:49:50 »
DITTO!  I told my wife when I first set eyes on my Pagoda 15 years ago that I would either buy that car when it became available or a 4.2 E-type Fixed Head Coupe, if I could find a nice one first.  I searched for 14 years for the FHC of my dreams and never found it.  Then owner of my Pagoda gave me a call...

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Originally posted by SL113fan

Very near term:

Series 1 or 1.5 E-type FHC

Longer term:

Any DB4, DB5, or SWB DB6 Aston Martin



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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2004, 12:03:04 »
What's interesting to me about all this is that I have a number of acquaintances who have tons of money (unlike me) and have collections of cars, often very expensive exotics. Virtually all those cars sit indoors and don't get driven. Which means they deteriorate etc. Not an uncommon problem. For better or for worse, I can't afford anything really exotic (well except maybe the GT40 which has developed a case of financial 'mission creep') and all my cars get driven. Not as often as I'd like but they do. The two I drive the most are the Mini-Cooper and my 280SL. There are a lot of cars on the lists above that I would like as well- Jaguars and old DB Astons in particular- but from my experience, once you pay beyond a certain amount, the return in fun on your investment goes down.
   I was surprised more people didn't want an early Porsche, like a 356C. They are supposed to be wonderful cars, but I have never owned one. I was glad to see the Berlinetta Boxer on the scoreboard; my favorite is the 365BB, the first one, which has better lines, SIX exhaust pipes, and a higher-winding engine. If you can't afford a 288GT0- and most of us can't- the 365 Boxer is a worthy alternative.
   There was a letter in Sports Car Market last year from a lucky fellow in CA who has owned a 288, an F40, and an F50. He liked the 288 the best. Fortunate man, to have been able to make the comparison.  :D