Author Topic: Have you noticed - Lug wrench sleeve in spare cover? (Read 11203 times)

Panzer82 · « **on:** March 14, 2015, 23:54:56 »

Maybe I'm just completely blind.... but... I was over at my friend's shop today, where my recent acquisition, a 1968 250SL, is at the moment. I opened up the spare tire cover where the tool kit is kept and realized the lug wrench was in a sewn sleeve in the top flap. I have never noticed this before and I bet I've looked in the spare tire cover storage area of 30 different W113s. Do all Pagodas have this? I wondered.

So I walk over to a 1968 280SL that's in the shop and open up the trunk, pull back the spare tire cover flap and sure enough, the same little sleeve is there, although no lug wrench in this car.

I looked in my 1965 230SL... no such sleeve.

Does your car have this sleeve for the lug wrench?

See photos illustrating what I mean.

49er · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2015, 02:42:28 »

Mine has the lug wrench there along with the wheel centering pin.

John

Flyair · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2015, 06:45:01 »

Panzer. the spare wheel cover was not part of car accessories on delivery...

Tomnistuff · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2015, 16:35:54 »

I have owned my '67 Italian 230SL since 1987 and never noticed the slot on the underside of the spare tire cover flap. I just went into the garage and "Surprise! Surprise! It's there!" At the same time, my car has spring clips on the trunk floor to retain the jack, the lug wrench and the wheel centering pin. There is no spring clip on the floor for the jack ratchet handle and when I insert it into the end of the jack screw-shaft as typically shown, it is so loose that it would rattle.

Because of what Stan said about the tire cover not being standard, and since the lug wrench spring clips on the floor are obviously designed to retain the lug wrench (because of their size and angles), I think I'm going to use the newly discovered pocket in the tire cover flap to quietly (no rattles) retain the jack ratchet handle instead of the lug wrench.

All I need now to make it all perfect is the proper stamped and welded sheet metal wheel chock and its fastener.

Tom Kizer

66andBlue · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2015, 04:20:37 »

Quote from: Flyair on March 15, 2015, 06:45:01

Panzer. the spare wheel cover was not part of car accessories on delivery...

Stan,
I believe this was only true for the very early 230SL cars, those with the standing spare wheel on the left in the trunk. Those do not have a cover.
All others were delivered with the cover, p/n 113 890 00 98. Check your spare parts lists.

mmizesko · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2015, 10:55:38 »

Panzer,

Your first picture shows the sleeves, and you will see that your lug wrench is inserted into the pocket for the centering pin. In most, the seam you see back about 3 inches blocks the channel, so your wrench must have punched through it. The wrench is inserted in the back of the spare (front of the car) and the centering pin needs to go in that little hole toward the back of the car. Unfortunately, now, your pin may get lost in the longer channel.

BTW, I use the spring clips for my lug wrench as well.

Mike

Panzer82 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2015, 15:21:12 »

Thanks for the input here guys... always discovering new things. Many tool kits I see for our cars have the lung wrench in them.. not in that little sleeve. I guess they just get put back there over time.

Atazman · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2015, 16:45:32 »

What's the wheel centering pin?

Thanks!

mmizesko · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2015, 17:01:56 »

It screws into one of the lug holes on the hub so you can hang a tire/rim on it and screw in all the lugs.

Mike Mizesko

Iconic · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2015, 17:38:48 »

Quote from: mmizesko on March 16, 2015, 10:55:38

BTW, I use the spring clips for my lug wrench as well.
Mike

Mike,
Can you explain what you mean by that comment?
Thanks,
Mark

mmizesko · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2015, 18:23:06 »

Mark,

In the 230SL, the jack mounted in the rear had a separate handle, which would clip to the floor of the trunk. Not sure about the 250. The jack changed along the way to an integrated handle, and it mounted under the spare in the 250 and 280. Not sure when. Anyway, the clip remained next to where the jack mounts under the spare.

I hope this helps. There must be some pics on this site to better explain than my words.

http://www.sl113.org/wiki/Accessories/Toolkit

Mike Mizesko

49er · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2015, 15:58:58 »

Quote from: Tomnistuff on March 15, 2015, 16:35:54

There is no spring clip on the floor for the jack ratchet handle and when I insert it into the end of the jack screw-shaft as typically shown, it is so loose that it would rattle.
Tom Kizer

Hello Tom,
Been away from computer photo library for a while but here are a couple of pictures that might be helpful. My ratchet handle has a slight bend in it and a rubber tip to avoid marring the paint when getting to aggressive in jacking up the car

so it fits snuggly in the the jack screw. The other shows my lug wrench and centering pin in spare the tire cover.

John

gerster · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2015, 20:08:17 »

Nice to see, thanks.

Benz Dr. · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2015, 16:55:26 »

Quote from: Tomnistuff on March 15, 2015, 16:35:54

I have owned my '67 Italian 230SL since 1987 and never noticed the slot on the underside of the spare tire cover flap. I just went into the garage and "Surprise! Surprise! It's there!" At the same time, my car has spring clips on the trunk floor to retain the jack, the lug wrench and the wheel centering pin. There is no spring clip on the floor for the jack ratchet handle and when I insert it into the end of the jack screw-shaft as typically shown, it is so loose that it would rattle.

Because of what Stan said about the tire cover not being standard, and since the lug wrench spring clips on the floor are obviously designed to retain the lug wrench (because of their size and angles), I think I'm going to use the newly discovered pocket in the tire cover flap to quietly (no rattles) retain the jack ratchet handle instead of the lug wrench.

All I need now to make it all perfect is the proper stamped and welded sheet metal wheel chock and its fastener.

Tom Kizer

I have one left and it has your name on it Tom.

Iconic · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2015, 17:51:44 »

Quote from: mmizesko on March 16, 2015, 18:23:06

Mark,
In the 230SL, the jack mounted in the rear had a separate handle, which would clip to the floor of the trunk. Not sure about the 250. The jack changed along the way to an integrated handle, and it mounted under the spare in the 250 and 280. Not sure when. Anyway, the clip remained next to where the jack mounts under the spare.
I hope this helps. There must be some pics on this site to better explain than my words.
http://www.sl113.org/wiki/Accessories/Toolkit
Mike Mizesko

Thanks Mike !

MBdude · « **Reply #15 on:** March 29, 2015, 13:42:45 »

John
My 1969 280SL has the later style jack with the built in handle.
Along the back inside of the trunk is a long handle that looks like a piece of conduit with a little gold label that is quite scratched up.
I have been trying to figure out what the mysterious "ratchet handle" looks like and I think your photo is what I have been trying to identify.
It looks like the one in your photo but that doesn't make sense that my car would have one of these since it is the later style jack.
Can you tell me what is written on the label or any other identifying marks/
Thanks

49er · « **Reply #16 on:** March 29, 2015, 16:03:31 »

"From" and "to" stamped on the ratchet. A picture of what you are referring to would be helpful as I am still unsure what you are referring too.

John

I echo others in saying full membership is well worth the $30. You will get more helpful responses to your queries.

MBdude · « **Reply #17 on:** March 29, 2015, 18:33:17 »

My day just keeps getting better.
I looked inside my spare tire cover and sure enough there were two sleeves, one for the lug wrench and one for the wheel centering tool.
I moved the lug wrench from the tool pouch to the sleeve where it is supposed to go.
Unfortunately the tire centering tool is long gone along with the box of fuses and the pouch for the top removal tools.
All in all still a good day in MBville.

KevinC · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2015, 03:20:55 »

Dude,

Great collection of cars.

Here's where to get a wheel centering tool if you want one.

http://www.authenticclassics.com/Wheel-alignment-pin-for-Mercedes-p/auth-003750.htm

Raymond · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2015, 00:02:30 »

The most important use of the wheel centering pin is for when you are removing a rear wheel. When all of the lug bolts are removed, the drum can turn over the inner plate in the assembly and cover the holes. It can sometimes be a bit of a chore to turn the drum by hand back and get all the holes to line up properly. So, when you remove the first bolt, you screw in the pin and remove the remainder of the bolts and remove the wheel. The drum will not slip and all the bolts will thread back in easily.

RonB · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2015, 02:51:42 »

A friend just got a wheel centering pin on eBay $ 9.95 (includes shipping)

No reason to be without one

mmizesko · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2015, 10:29:52 »

Ron,

I've been watching ebay daily for the last year (as I've been building a bunch of original tool kits for 113's), and I have seen w107 centering guides for $10-$20 frequently. The w113 wheel centering pin is shorter, not so needle like, and has a slot for a screwdriver. These post for minimum of $60, and mostly $80-90 per.

The W107 pin will work, but unfortunately will deserve the snub of obsessive purists like me.

Mike Mizesko
Columbus, OH

glenn · « **Reply #22 on:** April 16, 2015, 15:15:33 »

Have a supply of wheel centering pins at 617 947 6399.

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Author Topic: Have you noticed - Lug wrench sleeve in spare cover? (Read 11203 times)

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