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W111 cowl dissassembled
« on: April 03, 2015, 04:29:57 »
Doing work on my '68 W111 coupe and disassembled the cowl. Thought it might be interesting for those who haven't seen what it looks like underneath.

Pictures of the cowl with the grille next to it. The three mystery screw holes under the chrome have been revealed. The lower windshield chrome is next to the cowl and you can see the mounting points. Next picture is where the chrome trim was mounted as well as the cowl. Next picture is the air flap. And finally, what is underneath the air filter below the cowl. Enjoy.    
Wallace
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'68 280SE W111 coupe
'60 220SE W128 coupe
'70 Plymouth Roadrunner 440+6

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Re: W111 cowl dissassembled
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2015, 13:47:11 »
Wallace,
Great info. I wondered how to get the cowl off. I have taken the 280SL cowl off but couldn't figure the 280SE until I saw your photos.
Now I will be able to take the cowl off and get my vent to work properly. What did you use to get the chrome trim off?
Thanks
David
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Re: W111 cowl dissassembled
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2015, 14:53:35 »
I hope this will help others as when you see it apart, it takes the mystery out.

I bought these below and they worked well. Others are probably on the market. I used blue tape on the paint so it wouldn't scratch the paint. The old original plastic "keepers" get hard with age and are sometimes a bit of a struggle to get off. Just don't pry too heavy in one spot. Spread the load out and you won't bend the trim. And take your time!!!!! And always use new "keepers" as they will be easier to install and remove in the future.

http://www.eastwood.com/12-pc-trim-tool-set.html
Wallace
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'60 220SE W128 coupe
'70 Plymouth Roadrunner 440+6

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Re: W111 cowl dissassembled
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2015, 21:53:20 »
I hope this will help others as when you see it apart, it takes the mystery out.

I bought these below and they worked well. Others are probably on the market. I used blue tape on the paint so it wouldn't scratch the paint. The old original plastic "keepers" get hard with age and are sometimes a bit of a struggle to get off. Just don't pry too heavy in one spot. Spread the load out and you won't bend the trim. And take your time!!!!! And always use new "keepers" as they will be easier to install and remove in the future.

http://www.eastwood.com/12-pc-trim-tool-set.html

Very nice job!. It's even harder to remove the dash components like you did with the windshield in. Your are so right in "taking your time" It's the only way to do it. Are you going to restore the wood while its out?
Peter Perry
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1965 230SL Light Ivory automatic
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Re: W111 cowl dissassembled
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 23:40:39 »
Yes I am. I am also replacing the windshield and gasket (MB gasket only) because the gasket is original and cracked. I pulled the cowl since the chrome trim had to come off and am replacing the really nasty air filter. Probably original. Also restoring all of the dash components, gauges etc.... The dash chrome is also being renewed. A real domino effect but have been waiting a while to do this. The rest of the interior is fair shape and original. I will do that in a few years. All part of the Master plan!

Even though my car is a 280SE, I am swapping for a 220-250SE wood binnacle while I am doing the burled walnut. Very excited about that. I am redoing the leather on the dash as well which includes the original binnacle. Easy to swap back to original if needed. For those considering such a swap, you must also have the upper dash pads as they are about a 1/2" longer than the leather covered binnacle dash pads. Reason being is the upper pads butt up against the binnacle with the leather. With the wood veneered binnacle, the pads actually fit in a recess in the binnacle. So yes, they are different.

With someone's assistance (read High tech and able), I could post the procedure how to disassemble the W111 dash. I have the article from "Mercedes Collector" and am willing to scan and send to someone who can post to the tech section. And while it is not exact for every year, it is great and uncovers the hidden fasteners that you would not know were there. 

I know there has been some talk about adding a small area for W11X only tech stuff. I think this would be a good example because it is similar, but yet different from the W113 cars.  
Wallace
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'60 220SE W128 coupe
'70 Plymouth Roadrunner 440+6

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Re: W111 cowl dissassembled
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2015, 19:28:34 »
I am just finishing refinishing the wood in my 220seb. It's a lot of time and work to do. I carefully was able to strip the failing finish and save the original veneer and then go through a process to refinish using car clear. After 3 steps adding clear and in between carefully sanding with 600-800 the piece are ready to go.
They look amazing.
Peter Perry
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1965 230SL Light Ivory automatic
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Re: W111 cowl dissassembled
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2015, 04:04:31 »
Peter,

That does look fantastic. You are a braver soul than me and I ended up sending my pieces to Madera. A couple of pieces were bad enough that they will need new veneer. :(

That wood binnacle is just an amazing piece.
Wallace
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'68 280SE W111 coupe
'60 220SE W128 coupe
'70 Plymouth Roadrunner 440+6