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Yes Garry, I understood that.That is why I wanted to give more strength to your comment so myllox was not mislead by Erics comments.I hope if I am wrong about a fact, others would point it out for the good of the community.The side markers started in '68 in the US. For the Pagoda, first as reflectors and then lights. I don't know when that switch to lights was.The pre-'68 US Pagodas look much more like European Pagodas except for head and tail light details.I can't wait to have these conversations in person !