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Madmerc

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engine wont start
« on: November 17, 2015, 06:03:22 »
hi guys I put n my new 123 ignition and it fired straight awat did my ajustments and all was fine until today I started it up and it ran for a few minutes and then struggled on 5 cylinders then sort of konked out now wont start got plenty of fuel and spark but wont go any ideas ,thanks

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Re: engine wont start
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2015, 06:41:34 »
Pull your spark plugs and take a look at them.
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
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Madmerc

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Re: engine wont start
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2015, 09:21:17 »
hi ja17 yes you are absolutely right all brand new plugs have fouled up engine was running very rich im still learning about fuel mixture I still don't no what im doing but willing to learn. thanks

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Re: engine wont start
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2015, 15:35:22 »
We can help you through this.  Do you understand the linkage set-up? Have you set up the engine linkages?
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

sr95032

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Re: engine wont start
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 18:02:57 »
I have a similar problem. My 123 distributor went in just fine at TDC, static timed per instructions. My problem is I replaced a vacuums retard dist With a proper one and now my car just kind of putters at probably 150 RPM's. Do I need to restore the proper tuning adjustments for vac adv. if so could I get directions.

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Re: engine wont start
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2015, 14:46:11 »
madmerc

Some things to look at:

-disconnect the linkage on the pump side and make sure the pump lever is against the stop. if not, adjust length of rod.
-be sure that the hoses running to the warm running device (SRD) aka won't run device are getting coolant  They should be warm after a few minutes running.
-take the cold start valve out and reconnect the fuel line.  Run the fuel pump.  Make sure it's not leaking.
-be sure that the thermostat in the WRD is working and that the air slide is not stuck
-be sure that the rack in the injection pump moves freely

sr90352

Not sure I understand what you mean.  What year/model car do you have?  What advance curve did you select in the 123?

CT
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1970 280SL #13027 (restored and sold)
1966 230SL #15274 (sold)
1970 280SL #14076 (sold)
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sr95032

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Re: engine wont start
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2015, 03:19:54 »
I have a very early 1963 230sl vacuume advance, installation of the 123ignition was very easy and straight forward.  All fuel probs have been taken care of. I had the wrong distr. (vacuume retard) installed by PO. After all the incredible knowlege and info on this web site, I realized with the new dist. ATDC it was horribly retarded (not PC) as I advance the dist more and more, the engine came to life. I finally got within the limits of the guage and hold down screw and dwell to 38, I have fell in love with my car all over again. It runs incredibly well. I was racing around the neighborhood at 1100pm last night, I ended up the the advance curve set at 8. I am waiting for an email from manufactuer for a tuning recomendation. 

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Re: engine wont start
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2015, 13:29:04 »
It's OK to use "retarded" WRT to timing. :-)

Good to hear that this woke your car up.

Chuck Taylor
1963 230SL #00133
1970 280SL #13027 (restored and sold)
1966 230SL #15274 (sold)
1970 280SL #14076 (sold)
Falls Church VA