Author Topic: Moss Green, Anyone? (Read 12365 times)

jbrowder · « **on:** November 06, 2004, 09:18:32 »

Some of you may remember my quest for a Moss Green 280SL. I have owned several Pagodas, and currently own one of the very last 280SL's made. But I have been long-bitten by the Moss Green bug. Years ago, the first 280 I wanted to buy was Moss Green, and I have been unable to completely get over it. While I like my Metallic Red/ Black, and it is a great car with phenomenal ownership and documented history, etc, I really want a Moss car.

I will not consider a car with rust, or wreck damage, but anything else will be considered. I would really appreciate any leads.

John B
Knoxville, TN

TheEngineer · « **Reply #1 on:** November 06, 2004, 11:37:32 »

My neighbor has had a green one for as long as I can remember. He's a collector. Give me the MB color code you want and I'll check. Yesterday I went over to my neighbor and he showed me all the receipts of his car going back to the original sales sticker. It is indeed "Moss green metallic". Everything is original, but then he doesn't drive the car much. Never been repainted, receipts for everything. Rare 4-speed. He's a real collector, almost like a museum.I tried to have him come to our get-together last Saturday in Issaquah. He would have stolen the show. Must be a late model because he has transistorized ignition.

hauser · « **Reply #2 on:** November 06, 2004, 12:21:06 »

Roy Spencer www.oursl.com has a 1968 Moss Green listed for $25,000.00 The car is located in Maine. The seller states"rebuilt from the ground up" $30K but it still needs some work to bring it up to its full glory.

1969 280sl 5 spd 1999 ML320 Gainesville,Fl.

andy · « **Reply #3 on:** November 06, 2004, 14:23:17 »

looks like the same green sl in maine is on e bay,item 4501357660.
was under 10k just now with 5 days to go.
andy
spain.

Douglas · « **Reply #4 on:** November 06, 2004, 14:50:42 »

Hatch & Sons has a moss green 280SL with a stick-shift for sale. They claim $100K spent on the restoration:

http://www.hatchandsons.com/pages/sales/vintage/2421

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

hauser · « **Reply #5 on:** November 06, 2004, 15:39:28 »

I called about the Hatch car and it is not a fresh restoration. I believe the price for that car is $69K. The interior is original. This was one point they stressed "The original cognac can not be duplicated" is this true?

They currently are offering 3 Pagodas and none of them are fresh restoations. "It isn't ecnomically feasible for us to restore these cars. The market just isn't there."

1969 280sl 5 spd 1999 ML320 Gainesville,Fl.

Mike Hughes · « **Reply #6 on:** November 06, 2004, 16:46:08 »

Why would one want to replace that original interior? The seats are beautifully preserved, with just the right patina for a 30+ year old car. You couldn't match the originality of such an interior, even if all the right color bits are available. Sometimes the best and most sympathetic restoration is obtained when one retains as much original material as possible.

On an old Rolls Royce, the value is totally destroyed if the original leather is replaced. One can repaint, replate, and refinish wood on those cars, but one never replaces even a panel of the leather trim unless it is totally beyond saving!

- Mike Hughes -ô¿ô-
1966 230SL Auto P/S
Havanna Brown (408)
Light Beige (181)
Cream M-B Tex (121)

homegab · « **Reply #7 on:** November 06, 2004, 17:05:25 »

Which green is it? If you want the british racing green I, know A 1971 with tan leather in LA my friend has, which was frame off restoration years back by the same one man shop that did my car in NY. My friend was thinking of selling it this summer when I, changed his mind! "IF YOU DO NOT NEED THE MONEY WHY SELL?"

Homayoun Gabbay

Douglas · « **Reply #8 on:** November 06, 2004, 17:11:26 »

Homayoun,

Who restored your car in NY & do you recommend them?

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

homegab · « **Reply #9 on:** November 06, 2004, 17:30:29 »

Hi, Douglas: The guy in NY moved to Carolina last I, heard involved in Amrican cars to feed the family as no one in NY apriciated his "ART" wish he was still hear since he moved I, have got my other 2 M/Benz and just jogeling to get the work done hear and there but now I, have to do all the resarch and parts find and so on and hold the shop hands but he was a good teacher I, have to say. If you think you want a good shop I, can recomend but you have to hold their hands.

Homayoun Gabbay

jbrowder · « **Reply #10 on:** November 07, 2004, 09:39:44 »

Thanks for the ideas. The specific color is DB 834 "Moss Green Metallic".

I had seen the ads for the Hatch car, but obviously that car is at the top of the market, and I am just an enthusiast. I also am aware of the car in Maine; it has been advertised for mid-$20's for some time. I don't know any specifics, but I wonder about rust in a northern car, and it looks a little "tatty" for that kind of money.

I would not mind a tatty car, but it must be priced accordingly.

The car I have is a great car: 7th to last 280 made, rust and wreck-free, purchased from original owner last year. The car has 80K miles, and owner had spent $30+K on mechanical and cosmetic freshening over the last couple of years. When I bought it, it just needed a few details sorted, and a complete detailing. Very nice car now, but the color just does not do it for me.

If I had a chance to trade for a comparable Moss car, I would in a minute. If I could pick up a solid Moss driver to do a "rolling restoration" that would be OK.

Keep the ideas coming.

John B

Klaus · « **Reply #11 on:** November 07, 2004, 09:54:57 »

What do the color specialists think? Hatch says its car is a 384 moss green - which of course doesn't exist, implying a typo and 834 moss green metallic, but the car doesn't look metallic, it looks like 226 moss green solid, which itself is a nice color.....

Klaus
1969 280 SL

hauser · « **Reply #12 on:** November 07, 2004, 10:45:24 »

Moss Green metallic is what is on the oursl listing.

1969 280sl 5 spd 1999 ML320 Gainesville,Fl.

n/a · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2004, 18:51:30 »

Sorry,
I recently purchased a Moss Green 69, 280SL from Knoxville Motors.
Not a perfect car but in good shape for the price.

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Jeff Abbott
Moss Green 69 280sl

jbrowder · « **Reply #14 on:** November 10, 2004, 11:09:47 »

Jeff,
I know the car. Too many corrosion issues for me, but a pretty car. If you would not mind sharing with me what you paid, I would really like to know. I know what Sam had in he car, and I will gladly share that with you. Email me.

John B
browder3@bellsouth.net

norton · « **Reply #15 on:** November 24, 2004, 19:53:55 »

Is this Moss Green? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4507261318&category=6315

jbrowder · « **Reply #16 on:** November 25, 2004, 08:58:13 »

That eBay link does not work for me. ??

John

norton · « **Reply #17 on:** November 25, 2004, 11:33:13 »

Don't know what happened to it :? I think it was a early 280 (1968) looked good, on the east coast, I'll keep looking

knirk · « **Reply #18 on:** November 27, 2004, 07:01:01 »

Here is my 69 280 SL, 113 044 12 00 7422, 834 Moss Green metallic (re sprayed 2 years ago by previous owner). When I had it inspected for the insurance the inspector claimed that it should not have been metallic. He said that metallic was not used until on later models than this one. Anybody know if this is true?

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Per G. Birkeland
69 280 sl aut 834
Norway

rwmastel · « **Reply #19 on:** November 27, 2004, 08:18:34 »

quote:
Originally posted by knirk

Here is my 69 280 SL, 113 044 12 00 7422, 834 Moss Green metallic (re sprayed 2 years ago by previous owner). When I had it inspected for the insurance the inspector claimed that it should not have been metallic. He said that metallic was not used until on later models than this one. Anybody know if this is true?

If the data plate under your hood and your data card both show 834, then I guess your car was originally moss green metallic. Rely on your documentation.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420

Ricardo · « **Reply #20 on:** November 27, 2004, 08:58:53 »

My '67 was 834, body and hardtop, now 502 winerot or burgandy, so your inspector seems to be wrong.
Ricardo

hauser · « **Reply #21 on:** November 27, 2004, 22:32:32 »

The moss green ebay car seems to come and go. It has been listed at least twice. I remember this car because I noticed it hadn't been washed and you could see all the dust on the car. This car also had wide white wall tires that set it apart from others.

1969 280sl 5 spd 1999 ML320 Gainesville,Fl.

hauser · « **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2004, 08:53:50 »

The ebay car is listed once again. The item number is 4508528222.

1969 280sl 5 spd 1999 ML320 Gainesville,Fl.

norton · « **Reply #23 on:** November 30, 2004, 09:14:30 »

Is this it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4508528222&fromMakeTrack=true

Ben · « **Reply #24 on:** November 30, 2004, 09:52:38 »

That eBay car sure is a nice colour combo. I believe it IS the correct Moss green, the other car here is quite a bit darker. I have a few photos somewhere I took of similar colour cars I'll try to post later.

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.

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