Hirschmann Antenna

[gugel]

The manual antenna on my car was broken when I got it, but here is a photo of a small (28 mm x 19mm) key that I suspect may have fit it.  If it's not an antenna key, does anybody know what it might have been used for?

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Chris

[Douglas]

I think that's an antenna key for a manual Bosch antenna, not a Hirschmann.

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

[Joe]

I have an original on my car, and a key. How is the key used?
Joe

[Douglas]

There's a black plastic cap on top of the antenna. Pop off the cap and you'll see an indent for the key. You insert the key, turn it slightly, and pull up. (Or you just leave the black plastic cap on and give it a tug.)

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

[hands_aus]

Hey Chris,
That key looks like it will do the job.
I have added some numbers (1-6) to your picture. See the attachment.

Could you please add some dimensions corresponding to the numbers?
1. is across the outside of the pins
2. is across the inside of the pins
the others are self explanatory.

I will try to make a key to match your dimensions.

What sort of metal is it and how thick is it?

Thanks for your help

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Here is a pic of my antenna folded but not stored.

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Bob Smith (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto

[gugel]

Bob,

Here are the dimensions.  Numbers 3 and 4 are hard to measure exactly because the transition between them is a curve and the two sides are slightly different, as shown.  The total of these two measurements is definitely 6 mm, though.

1. 7 mm
2. 4.5 mm
3. 4.5 mm  (5 mm)
4. 1.5 mm  (1 mm)
5. 4 mm
6. 10mm

Thickness: 1 mm
Depth of the space between the prongs:  6 mm

It appears to be just a flat piece of steel. Note however that the last 1.5 mm of each prong is turned up just slightly.

Hope this helps.  Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Chris

[n/a]

Can anyone recommend a web site for Hirshmann antennas?  When I tried the one listed below in Germany it didn't work.  I'm looking for a manual one for a BMW; I could only find one online for $90.  I don't need ten prices but I'm curious how the prices vary.  Thanks.

 - Peter

[hands_aus]

Hey Chris,

Thanks for the dimensions. Great help

cheers

Bob Smith (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto

[hauser]

Does anyone know if you can use the old/original base with a new mast?  It seem that the new antennas do not have the h logo.

1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.

[rwmastel]

quote:Originally posted by DavidAPease

..... So, off to the local (San Jose, CA) Mercedes wrecker yard, where I found a shelf about 6 feet wide and 3 feet deep stacked 4 or 5 high with Hirschmann antennas (all of unknown history, of course).  I picked out three 6000U models that looked promising.  I was looking for: a good mast, good mounting chrome, and an intact drain nipple and hose, as well as overall good condition.  All three had the old-style (old Mercedes-like) bakelite(?) connector with 5 pins.  Anyway, he sold me an armload of three for $100.  I was in Hirschmann Heaven.

I went home and dismantled all three (there's a parts diagram of the 6000U that I believe someone posted here recently, from Odemer's, but you don't really need it).  After a lot of experimentation, I figured out the connections for extending and retracting the mast, and found that all 3 motors were still good.  Anyway, I used the best parts from each, and built a lovely, quiet, reliable 6000U.

Hauser,

Maybe David knows - he seems to have seen every part disassembled!

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420

[DavidAPease]

Hi, Hauser,

In my admittedly limited experience, I can't see any reason you shouldn't be able to use any base/mast combination.  I think that the only critical things are that the mast fits through the base (without too much "slop"), and that the threads on the base screw into the antenna housing.  I couldn't find any evidence that either of these had changed over many years.

-David Pease
'66 French 230SL

[Lindsay]

I'm looking for the correct Hirschmann automatic antenna model # for a 1971 280SL. I've read most of the threads here regarding the Hirschmann antennae but none address specifically the original model number. There is quite a lot of mention of the Hirschmann model 6000U as a suitable, all be it expensive, model to use. Would this be considered "factory correct"? Also, would a 6000H unit work as well if a 6000U can't be sourced?

Lindsay (Southern California)
1971 280SL
180G, 396 G  Top
M-B Tex  Blue

[dldubois]

Lindsay:  

I've got a 69 and I have the original antenna paperwork.  It came stock w/ AUTA 6000F58.  It was replaced at some point as I recently replaced mine and the one in the car had model #AUTA 8600S.  The mast guide snapped.   I ended up replacing w/ AUTA 2040 which is readily available on Ebay. (Had to adjust the mount is all). I would think any of the 6000 model are quite similar and would be correct.  I didn't see much difference between the 8600.

Dana DuBois

1969 280sl auto
blue (906)
Corinth, TX

[Lindsay]

Does the Hirschmann Auta 2040 have a similar chrome bezel to the original style that has the Hirschmann "h" insignia? How many sections is the antenna when fully exteneded and what is the fully extended length?

Lindsay (Southern California)
1971 280SL
180G, 396 G  Top
M-B Tex  Blue

[Douglas]

Lindsay,

I believe the part with the "h" on it is a piece of chrome trim. It's not part of the antenna.

Douglas Kim
New York
USA

[dldubois]

Lindsay:

Just looked at the box which states 99cm from base to fully extended.  It's got 5 sections on the box picture.   I would verify but my car's undergoing a strip and repaint though it was supposed to be ready last week....

Dana DuBois

1969 280sl auto
blue (906)
Corinth, TX