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Chris_ATL

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Engine numbers
« on: August 01, 2017, 22:29:09 »
Hi,

Newbie here... I'm doing an extensive PPI on a 68 280SL that has been sitting for a long time... I've been focused on all the rust and major items, but omitted the obvious...

Does anyone know what this engine is from? It's a 2.8 but not sure what off

130 015 00 01



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Re: Engine numbers
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2017, 22:53:25 »
Hi ?,
I think you asking for the cylinder head number. Take a look at the technical manual, there is a list of the casting numbers. I think it should read
130 016 0001.
(different from the block #)

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Re: Engine numbers
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2017, 00:21:04 »
Chris_ATL,
The following is from the technical manual:
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The engine number is located on the flat machined area below the spark plugs towards the rear of the engine on the driver’s side. If the machined area is there, but no numbers are stamped on it, this means you have a factory replacement engine. There may also be a small metal plate riveted onto this spot, with the words “Mercedes-Benz”, “Original Tauschaggregat” and the engine number included. Replacement engines were sometimes stamped by the Mercedes dealer with the original engine number using an appropriate die punch numbers set.
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If the engine is an original 280SL engine, the number should start with 130 983 ....

It might be helpful to read the whole section on the engine. 

You seem to have full access to the car.  Do you by any chance have access to any documentation on the car from the seller such as the data card?  See the section in the technical manual on data cards. If you have the data card or a copy of it, which includes the VIN, it will also show the original engine number as well as a lot of other useful information.

As advised by Oz in another thread, the extent of rust may be the single most important aspect as to restorability.
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Re: Engine numbers
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2017, 01:18:17 »
look here:

https://www.sl113.org/wiki/DataCard/EngineNumber

My favorite rust check spot is up inside the front wheel well.  Reach up above the front tire to the inboard side and feel for a rectangular section of metal running fore and aft.  Feel for holes on top of that channel.  Holes there usually mean that the rest of the car has probably been glossed over. 

Here is a picture of the channel with the fender removed:

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Re: Engine numbers
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2017, 04:52:07 »
Hi ?,
I think you asking for the cylinder head number. Take a look at the technical manual, there is a list of the casting numbers. I think it should read
130 016 0001.
(different from the block #)

Dirk

That's a casting number which is not the same a MB part number. Blocks, heads, cranks, and connecting rods will have casting numbers which can tell you what series those parts are. As an example, 230SL engines use 3 different connecting rods which can be easily identified by appearance but more accurately by casting numbers.
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Re: Engine numbers
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2017, 15:58:46 »
Chris,

I live in Marietta and have a 280SL on a rotisserie that you are welcome to come by and look at a car that has had a fair amount of rust that would show you where to look and how much work it takes.  Send me a PM

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