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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - Tools kit subject
« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2017, 21:11:44 »
Thanks for the clarification guys.
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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - Tools kit subject
« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2017, 23:18:17 »
Getting back to the matter of the Italian market front side fender lamps, do I recall that these unique round orange lamps were not M-B units at all but rather Italian sourced and dealer fitted prior to registration in period?
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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - Tools kit subject
« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2017, 23:48:06 »
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.../... these unique round orange lamps were not M-B units at all but rather Italian sourced and dealer fitted .../...
The side indicator lamps certainly are Italian type (same as fitted to Fiat etc.). However, in this case the M-B factory seems to have bought in the lamp units, and they were fitted in the factory on cars with SA620(version for Italy). The electrical feed is very nicely integrated in the wiring loom of the SL. It is not a simple add-on.
You can see these lights fitted onto the second (white) SL in the well-known factory photo
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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - Tools kit subject
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2017, 01:57:25 »
So, if the Italian side lamps were fitted at the factory, what should one expect to find on the data card:  the "543" country code for Italy, the "620" or "SA620" option code for Italian Version, or both?
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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - Tools kit subject
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2017, 07:30:46 »
So, if the Italian side lamps were fitted at the factory, what should one expect to find on the data card:  the "543" country code for Italy, the "620" or "SA620" option code for Italian Version, or both?

I would expect to see the 543 for Italy and the 615 for additional turn signal for Italy but not the 620 code.

We could ask Alex D to confirm.  As I recall his car was delivered to his father at the factory with Italian specs as his father was living in Italy at the time.
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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - side marker round lights
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2017, 19:34:01 »
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The side indicator lamps certainly are Italian type (same as fitted to Fiat etc.). However, in this case the M-B factory seems to have bought in the lamp units, and they were fitted in the factory on cars with SA620(version for Italy). The electrical feed is very nicely integrated in the wiring loom of the SL.
You can see these lights fitted onto the second (white) SL in the well-known factory photo


Hans is - as usual - absolutely right.
Factory installed, somewhere hidden in the general overall "Italian version option code" SA 615, 617 or 620. Hans knows this better than I since he has got an Italian SL.

There was/is a special SA code for these lights in the parts lists: SA 55502

The round Italian "Fiat 500 Bambino"type side marker lights were factory installed, had an MB parts number which was two times replaced, and only the well known US side marker light number remains:

A 000 822 41 20       BLINKER LAMP
Replaced by:
A 000 822 57 20       
Replaced by:
A  000 826 03 41
and
A 000 826 04 41   - SIDE REFLECTOR    




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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - Tools kit subject
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2017, 10:04:34 »
Quote from: neelyrc
I would expect to see the 543 for Italy and the 615 for additional turn signal for Italy
My car early 280SL was sold and delivered in Italy. On the Data card, 543 is visible in Ordering No (AuftragsNr) and code 617 is in the list of SA
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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - Tools kit subject
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2017, 13:45:10 »
Thanks Hans, question resolved! Looking at the list of codes again, 617 certainly makes a lot more sense.
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Re: Calling all Early 250SL Owners - Tools kit subject
« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2017, 14:32:53 »
you can buy the fuse boxes from mercedes parts for about $7.  You'll need to find the stubbies though.
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