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lurtch

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scorched engine dilemma
« on: November 29, 2017, 17:32:47 »
Hi All,

A month ago I posted pix of my neighbors burned-out Pagoda. He told me yesterday he  has to dispose of the hulk soon.

I told him I would post these photos and see how experts weigh-in about whether  the engine is salvageable or not. These .127 blocks are becoming quit rare, correct?

It does appear to be an original block because of the data plate configuration, correct?

However, the exhaust headers are obviously not steel tube.

A lot of the damage appears to be superficial. Did it get hot enough to render it worthless?

Any and all comments would be appreciated, and I will pass them on to George.

Larry in Santa Rosa, CA

Larry Hemstreet  in  N. Cal.

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Re: scorched engine dilemma
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 19:27:08 »
I would say it is not worth fixing.  From the looks of it the motor got so hot that even cleaned up there could be problems with the block.  All of the aluminum is destroyed.
Brad

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Re: scorched engine dilemma
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 20:44:57 »
Why not try Metric Motors and ask them if they have any recommendations?
Looks as if most of the heat was on top.  Injection pump is also made of alloy and it's still there.
What about pulling the dipstick to see if the oil is still liquid or present.

Hope the owner is compensated enough to enjoy another pagoda to be bought.

Walter

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Re: scorched engine dilemma
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2017, 21:43:56 »
Actually fire is good for the iron casting as it will relieve any stress in the casting.  Problem is it also rendered junk pretty much everything else.  It might be worth $300 or so but is it worth pulling for that?

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Re: scorched engine dilemma
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 06:22:49 »
Would you put that in your car?
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Re: scorched engine dilemma
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 08:50:36 »
I would consider the block if I wanted a genuine SL block as opposed to a sedan block.  But the price would have to be right because you would have a ton in it getting it apart and machined. 

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Re: scorched engine dilemma
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2017, 16:36:27 »
Not worth the risk.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

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1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
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Re: scorched engine dilemma
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2017, 20:08:25 »
While most everything can be saved with a sufficient infusion of cash, not everything should be saved.  Aside from providing a conversation piece base for a glass top coffee table, that block should be scrapped.

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Re: scorched engine dilemma
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 08:05:23 »
I would at least pull it out, open it up and have a look.
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