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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2018, 23:25:45 »
Hankook whitewalls👍👍👍👍👍
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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2018, 00:53:01 »
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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2018, 01:28:34 »
Go for the 3/4 Wide whites James! ;)
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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2018, 05:23:05 »
Just for clarity I wanted to state that the current “Coker” Phoenix tires are not belted like the original Firestone tires were.  They are a conventional radial tire so in terms of construction there is no special advantage to them.

I am curious if any of us with loose feeling or squealing tires have tried raising the tire pressures up a bit to say 36 psi or so? 

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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2018, 20:04:27 »
I too went with the  Hankooks about 2 weeks ago.  I don't do rally's or auto crosses so I can't comment on them as a performance tire. .   I have 75 miles on them so far and they feel great.  I went with whitewalls and like the look as well.  I paid $420 out the door for 5 tires, mounted and balanced.
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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2018, 18:43:39 »
Just for clarity I wanted to state that the current “Coker” Phoenix tires are not belted like the original Firestone tires were.  They are a conventional radial tire so in terms of construction there is no special advantage to them. I am curious if any of us with loose feeling or squealing tires have tried raising the tire pressures up a bit to say 36 psi or so?

Not quite, Patrick. It's all about sidewall stiffness.

I originally had Pirelli, "cheap tires" on my car and I did not like the handling; made me feel disconnected from the car. When I took the newly acquired reproduction Cokers to my service place, they indeed observed that the sidewalls were significantly stiffer than the Pirellis, with the latter being a totally conventional tire. I believe it is the sidewall stiffness (a metric not generally measured) that led to my satisfaction with them. But yes, they are a true 100% radial, not a half-radial.

I now have old Cokers, and they'll have to be replaced...but during their lifetime they've been great for me. Expensive, yes. But great too. I have not experienced squealing so can't speak to the higher pressures solving a problem.
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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2019, 20:48:47 »
I am close to needing replacement tires and considering the Hankook 724 WSW.  Can anyone here that has had the tires for more than a year comment on how well the white stripe is holding up?  Any noticeable yellowing?  I know that over time on many of today's wsw there can be "bleed through" from the tire that affects the wsw.  Currently I have Diamond Back wsw where the company added the wsw to the tire with a sealer on the back side.  The white stripe has held up very well over the past 8 years but I don't particularly care for the brand of tire that they put the wsw on.  I have found a company in California called Calli Tire that will add a white stripe to a Hankook tire that is the blackwall version of the 724 but with shipping, mounting etc. it about triples the cost of just purchasing the 724 from Discount Tire.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thank you in advance  :)

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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2019, 20:52:07 »
Two years going and my Hankooks are still white👍
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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2019, 21:36:23 »
As I mentioned in other posts, I put Yokohama "light truck" tires on my car (all black - no white walls) with a stiff sidewall and found a noticeable difference from the BFG Radial T/As and Pirelli P77s I had on there that tended to wallow in the (hard) corners.   

With the weight that our cars have, I feel more secure with the stiff sidewalls when I hit the high speed twisties but I'm sure most drivers wouldn't drive their pagoda as hard as I do.  On my MGB I was happy with a softer sidewall but then again the MGB has 700 lbs less weight to throw around. 

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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2019, 22:02:25 »
Interesting post from Woodstock.  He and I are of a like mind.   I participated in the Maple Mille last year up here in Ontario.   It’s run by the same organizers as the Silver Summit.  The Pagoda is the perfect sporty vintage tourer for a long event like those.
I also just purchased 5 of the aluminum 6x14 ‘steelies’ from Scoot.  Just having them stripped and powder coated right now.   I have the Uniroyals on the original steelies now, but will be mounting Michelin MXV-P whitewalls on the refurbished aluminum wheels.    I had to import the Michelin’s from Germany as I was unable to find them in whitewall in North America.   
Looking forward to spring driving season on my new wheels and tires.   I expect a significant improvement in ride and handling. 
I’ll post some photos once I get them back from the wheel shop.

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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2019, 21:52:11 »
I just ordered 4 Hankook H724 P195/75R14 white walls from my local tire store. The old Michelin's I put on in 1982 are finally splitting. :'( I've actually had 2 people over the years try to buy these tires right off the car at shows.
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Re: Cheap tires!
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2019, 23:12:16 »
I hope you never drove with those old tyres.  Tyres any oleander than 10 years are considered unroadworthy and dangerous.  Some say even less time before changing them.
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