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Stevec57

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Restoration complete
« on: February 21, 2018, 09:06:30 »
Finished project , 2500 hours,
 of restoration complete to concours level,  two years
« Last Edit: February 21, 2018, 09:12:22 by Stevec57 »

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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 09:28:59 »
Well done Steve,
Looks like  zillon$
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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2018, 09:56:25 »
Great job , Would you please post the fender notches image ..

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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 15:00:26 »
Now that the car is finished, what are your plans with the beautiful SL? Will you get it appraised? The photo looks like the car is in a showroom.
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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 16:07:16 »
Yes it was appraised after completion. I’ve owned the Car for 27 years. It’s a Euro model car with manual transmission  and since I’ve owned it I had planned to restore it. I wanted it the very best I could make it. I love the Euro model Pagoda’s  so when I bought the car that’s  what I sourced out. It has no AC, no fan shroud,  different camshaft,  giving it little more horse power from North American cars. No side fender  lights ,  clean smooth chrome  bumpers,  Euro headlights, Chrome steering wheel Horn Ring. Extra Chrome piece on rear of car, under Licence Plate   etc etc. Little more chrome in the interior  and slightly more stiff suspension from North American models .

I had been  reaseaching all the finer details of this car with plans to do a high level  restoration  since the day of purchase. The body was done to  with all new inner and outer  fenders. The Frame Rails on both sides were also replaced as well as entire rear of car from back of tonneau cover back.  A jig was made for car before the disassembly. The car was then photographed in  a very detail way before work began, so car could be spot welded back exactly how and where Mercedes did it in 1968. Even stuff no one will every see, was done precisely as it came apart. This body is perfect in every way and I myself could not find that this car was ever been worked on, its  so precisely  detailed. I loved the process and miss the fun now that it’s all done  very much.  I appreciate the build of these cars even more now than ever .  Guess need to find another car to do it again hahaha.

As for this car, I plan to keep it and one day pass on to my two Boys. It’s never been showed yet but I think I will this coming spring in my local area.  The mechanical of the car is done correctly and just as detailed as body of  the car but I’m most proud of the body on this car. 100 percent as new and 100 perfectly correct. I plan to drive it on good weather  days  only , hope it will never see a wet road again under my control of this car.
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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2018, 16:39:55 »
Well you said you have 2 boys, you "owe" them to create another, so they dont have to quibble over the one car. (ha ha)

Beautiful car, congrats!

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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2018, 17:12:15 »
Thank you for kind words

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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2018, 17:42:25 »
Is 2500 hours an estimate or actual?
If actual you should be very pleased with the shop that did it in that time.


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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2018, 21:01:11 »
This is how this car went through restoration

The actual time may have been  little more than 2500 hours to complete it , as there were three different shops that did the work on this 280. The Body was done by an English Coach Work fellow. He’s super talented guy is now more knowledgeable  about a 280 SL body’s than most anyone . I have so much respect for his desire to make this car perfect to satisfy himself, as well as me.  He has a mechanical engineering degree and he required it to do this car, as he did. He went about it in a very systematic organized  way, without any hesitation  or surprises . In the end  there was very very little untouched of the car. We were into every cavity of this car with borescope and if any doubt the section was rebuilt. The car went back together using all Mercedes parts from Classic Center and it all fit like a glove. This to me showed things were dead on, as the new parts dropped into the correct alignment without any difficulty.    The gaps are all perfect, including the radius gaps at top of doors, which I think is most diffficult area to get right on the Pagoda Car. They are at 4.5 to 5 mm on entire car.   As I said he kept saying to me he wanted to work on this car without a trace he’d been there.  I think he truely achieved this goal. Example of his determination to make this car right was the spot welding required on a 280SL body  to make it right. His shop did not have enough power to run the spot welder unit so we rented this very large external power unit to drive the requirements of the spot welder. He worked at times through the entire night cause he got so into it, he got on rolls and just didn’t want to leave it, was like an addiction . He was really into this rebuild as he knew he was doing something very special. Essential making a brand new 280 SL Mercedes body .  He lived and breathed this car so much so he bonded to it as much as me. It was all done in his shop at an my home airport. He has an airplane Hangar just down the ramp from my own hangar there.  He’s turned this hangar into a business rebuilding older cars . I was there entire time during the work helping out.  He restores cars for a living from this hangar.

Next the car was then shipped in an enclosed truck on a Ferry ride to Vancouver Island , Victoria BC, to Coach Werks for Paint. The detail of paint was as per factory spec in factory color, close to 350 hours of work just doing the prepping  and painting this  car.     When it came out of paint. It stayed on Vancouver Island and went straight  to Rudi and Company for reassembly.  Remember this was not same location car was taken apart. One is on mainland, in Vancouver BC, the paint shop and assembly is on Vancouver Island in city of Victoria BC.   All the parts were still in my hangar at airport where body was done as well as the disassembly of car took place. Then all these parts, few at a time,  were flown by aircraft  from Vancouver  to Victoria on Vancouver Island  as they were required.  There are sure lots of parts in this car as I made about 40 trips to Victoria transefering parts . Every part was then restored or purchased new from Classic Center. It  was lots and lots of challenging logistic for me but very fun, I didn’t want it to end. I kept car 100 percent original so everything matches the paper work on the car. Nothing was done to change the way it would have been  when new in 1968. The detail of this car, in my opinion, is flawless. I’m very detailed person I think, I watched and tracked every detail of this car and times things needed to be redone to satisfy my wishes. I wanted it right and didn’t care what it took to get it right.

Rudi, from Rudi and Company, retired after 44 years of restoring Mercedes Classic   cars,  this 280SL was his last car done in his original shop before he sold and moved business. Rudi himself did not work on this car, his shop Foreman did all the work with one other fellow.  Rudi was envolved for entire project from the time the car started coming apart to its  completion. But really I was driving all of this, as Rudi is not a 280 SL expert, his background is Gullwings and 300SL roadsters .  They had done lots and lots of work on 280 SL but never done a restoration to the level of any Gullwing, on a 280 SL.  This was new or deeper territory for this shop.    Most people would  think, why in the hell would any person spend  more on a restoration than car is worth. Two words  I can come up with “passion” and “emotional attachment” to this car, that’s what drives me.   This 280 SL detail is as good or better than any  Gullwing or 300 SL that I’ve ever seen.  Rudi’s guys are very very proud of this 280 SL and say they’ll never probably ever do another one like it. Probably  true, but this did not slow my thoughts down or my determination  on making this car right ! 
 
So the real hours into this car just maybe slightly greater than 2500 hours. Things were not always on the clock.  What I know is the cost, and I have more into this car than I could sell this car for but I knew that going into it. I did it for the challenge, not for resale  but more than that   It was  the passion. I had enjoyment I guess from it all, and that’s  all that matters (maybe not to  my wife hahaha) . It’s now a known quantity to me in every regard. I’m proud of what has been done here. I’ve built few homes, Airplane hangars, restored aircraft , and now contracted and over saw  this 280 SL car restoration .  I’m very very proud of the final result and would love to do it all again. The car speaks for itself to the observant eye. That s fun for me. It was like a personal challenge how perfect I could push this to get this to another level not seen by many.  One thing I know is ever detail now of our cars that we all enjoy. They really are very well made cars.  As Rudi calls  these cars  after restoration, “kinetic art” !
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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2018, 21:29:27 »
That is one sharp looking SL! 
Great job Steve in putting one of these back to the original specs.
I see you used the correct booster line filter/one way valve.
Love the subtle zinc chromate on your FI lines.
Walter

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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2018, 23:43:09 »
WOW!
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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2018, 10:08:20 »
Amazing accomplishment! I love the engine compartment details and the story of the process behind the restoration project.
Would love to see it real life.

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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2018, 12:49:44 »
When you see correct clamps in the engine bay and all lined up and neat, you know you're on to a quality restoration.
Enjoy some pictures at this link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359@N06/sets/72157603240571101/show/

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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2018, 13:43:29 »
I think these clamps here are ok, aren't they?

This engine and engine bay look fantastic to me! I also like the colour of yellow plating, as said above.

I would probably look again at routing of the throttle-distributor vacuum line routing, but that is about the only thing I can ask about. I wish my engine bay looked similar. Hope it will one day.

I would, actually, appreciate more pictures of the details, including the other side of the engine bay. Good source to learn from. Show to some of the mechanics ;).
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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2018, 14:05:07 »
Talking about engine bay detail there is few features right away to determine  attention to detail here, that jumps out at me personally . These pictures that I can post are small in size, so I’m  sure viewers can’t  see it. I mentioned above that this car is 1968. I also mentioned above that this car had all new inner and outer fenders installed. When you purchase these inner front  fenders from Mercedes what you can only purchase is the later model ones with the four plug holes that were only OEM in 1969 and later. This is same for nose section where Mercedes Chrome grill is mounted into and cross member behind front bumper. All these parts now are for 1969 and newer cars. To me a dead give away the car was restored if I installed these parts as they  arrived from Classic Center. All these parts were corrected and plugs were welded into these fenders and nose metal behind front grill  to make this detail as per OEM of a 1968. I did not want these parts with the rubber plug holes into them. Engine bay now looks OEM for a 1968 in detail. That totally clean inner fender look  as the 1968 had, with no inner fender rubber plugs

Another area of detail is the battery in the car. It was totally redone with VARTA markings and look to be as close to OEM as possible.  As you all know, you cannot purchase the OEM VARTA Battery for our cars anymore but this one looks very very close to  the OEM look, that I was happy enough with end result. Again  the picture here is not detailed enough for you to see  it lbut it looks great and gives  the engine Bay that OEM look, right away, of going back in time.  I think anyone judging this car would be happy with this detail as well. I see all kinds of sealed batteries in the restored cars but mine in color and detail is as per 1968 or as close in today’s  time, to appear period correct. 

Also the engine hood nylon extension strap. I happen to have or find a brand new one still in the Mercedes part bag, it has the correct nylon  weave in this strap. I smile every time I open hood and look at that detail. Can’t find them anymore without a real hunt. There is so much detail under this hood I can’t list them all but those are just a few that do jump out at  me, for the detailed persons eye.

I ran into so many things during this restoration that stopped me hard. Another one is the car door fender / latches. I’m sure others know exactly what stopped me here with the newer rear fenders to compared what you can purchase new from Classic Center. Again I wanted mine to be as per 1968. That didn’t come without more work to this area of driver and passenger B post fender latch. The fun of wanting it period correct. It was fun but it stopped me Cold when we went to install the door latches. I could have used the later model latches but I wanted to use my proper 1968 latches so the correction needed to be done to these new OEM Mercedes  rear fenders. 
 
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Re: Restoration complete
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2018, 17:44:36 »
Steve,

Congrats on what looks like dream restoration.    Would you post your photos on Google or elsewhere and just provide a link?

Especially photos of in-progress.


Nice work.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 04:50:10 by kampala »
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