Author Topic: Firewall pad (Read 8835 times)

mauro12 · « **on:** October 22, 2018, 21:25:24 »

Hello guys, I’m looking for a new firewall for my car because mine is very old and cracked. Do you know some website in Europe where to buy? I have already tried sls shop but I’m not convinced.
Thank you

66andBlue · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2018, 21:41:23 »

Look at this post here: https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=28011

mbzse · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2018, 22:36:43 »

On this side of the pond; you may consider to get the somewhat corresponding diamond pattern item; for instance from vendor:
https://oldtimer-ersatzteile24.de/navi.php?qs=Stirnwand

Vander · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2018, 00:21:47 »

I buy mine at Authentic Classics, not sure if they ship to Europe?

66andBlue · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2018, 04:56:57 »

Quote from: mbzse on October 22, 2018, 22:36:43

On this side of the pond; get the corresponding diamond pattern item for instance from vendor:
https://oldtimer-ersatzteile24.de/navi.php?qs=Stirnwand

Hans,
although the two products have a diamond pattern they are NOT the same.
Authentic Classics sells a pad made from material very close - if not identical - to the "tarpaper" of the original MB firewall.
The other one is the plastic pad sold by: https://vintageeuroparts.com/index.php/mercedes-diamond-pattern-firewall-pad-w113-113-230sl-250sl-280sl-pagode-pagoda.html

Taleb · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2018, 08:11:32 »

I bought mine from Niemoller.de in Germany IoT’s super perfect .

Good luck

wayne R · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24, 2018, 11:34:02 »

Another source is Classic-Mercedes-Parts.com
they are in Belgium, i used there fire wall pad , but its
for 65 230SL, not sure if they have 250-280SL, the fit was excellent.
very fair price and fast delivery.

mauro12 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2018, 12:20:32 »

Is it complicated to install? Do you have to remove all cables or not?

wayne R · « **Reply #8 on:** October 29, 2018, 00:07:16 »

Mauro , No its not complicated to fit, just remove as less as possible cables,
most times just cut with sharp blade to fit over rather than remove cable.
A small tip ,some spray can brands of contact cement are not very good,-may peel.
Over the years i have found that applying with small brush use plenty put on
fast, and leave it to dry at least 30 minutes before placing on. regards.

mauro12 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2018, 01:44:46 »

In my car I have also the VIN plate and these firewall pads that I have seen aren’t designed in that special shape.. what have you done about this problem ?

66andBlue · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2018, 04:30:27 »

Mauro,
if your car has the VIN plate on the firewall you can cut out a rectangle with a razor blade or buy one that has the cut-out already like this one:
https://www.authenticclassics.com/Firewall-Pad-Set-LHD-250SL-280SL-WITH-VIN-TAG-p/auth-009170.htm

mauro12 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2019, 12:09:57 »

Thank you guys for all your answers. I have seen also sls shop selling the pad for about 57€. I wanted to ask you if the correct thickness of the pad was 5mm. Thank you

mrfatboy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2019, 13:00:47 »

I just installed the Authentic Classics version on a friend's 250sl right before PagodaFest. It is very nice. Installation was easy. Just peel and stick. I only had to make one small cut to install around the speedo/tach/temp gauge holes. This same cut in my original pad.

Vintage Euro Parts sells two versions of the firewall pad. The "concourse" and the "plastic" version. Big price difference.

VEP donated the "Concourse" version to PagodaFest's Silent Auction. I just happened to have both the Authentic Classics version and VEP's Concourse version side by side. They appeared identical including diamond pattern, tar paper material, and peel and stick backing.

Unless you are on a budget I would stay away from the "plastic" version.

Concourse
https://vintageeuroparts.com/index.php/mercedes-diamond-pattern-firewall-pad-w113-113-230sl-250sl-280sl-pagode-pagoda.html

Plastic
https://vintageeuroparts.com/index.php/firewall-insulation-pad-for-mercedes-230sl-250sl-280sl-113.html

john.mancini · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2019, 13:02:37 »

I have a very low mileage unrestored 280SL that still looks new. Here's what an original firewall pad looks like. Hope this helps.

mbzse · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2019, 13:28:32 »

Quote from: john.mancini

I have a very low mileage unrestored 280SL that still looks new.../...

Nice indeed! We love original Pagoda cars, and pictures of them. Your car is a 1969, I suppose(?).

Seems some mechanic talked you into replacing all the original hose clamps in your engine compartment...

john.mancini · « **Reply #15 on:** October 28, 2019, 13:51:56 »

It's a late 69. I bought this from the original owner's estate almost 17 years ago. It had 38,00 original miles it and was absolutely pampered. It was a "Feature Car" on the early 113 website. It's hard to find original cars. Yes, I replaced all original hoses and clamps.

thelews · « **Reply #16 on:** October 28, 2019, 14:06:13 »

here's another original pad, '67 250

mbzse · « **Reply #17 on:** October 28, 2019, 14:27:28 »

Quote from: john.mancini

.../... Yes, I replaced all original hoses and clamps

Ok, hope you kept the originals in a box, to go with the car... Or you can give them to me

Especially the ones for the power steering hoses are hard to come by (see attached)

john.mancini · « **Reply #18 on:** October 28, 2019, 15:10:01 »

I keep everything!!

mauro12 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 28, 2019, 19:20:45 »

They cost a fortune... and in addition to that you have to pay customs duty to have in Europe. The diamond pattern is by far more beautiful than the normal one, but it’s worth 275dollars?

Taleb · « **Reply #20 on:** October 29, 2019, 09:47:04 »

Www.niemoeller.de they are in Germany, I used it on my car since two years . It’s perfect

mbzse · « **Reply #21 on:** October 29, 2019, 13:06:20 »

Quote from: mauro12

.../...you have to pay customs duty.../...

What? You buy in Germany, and EU means, there is no customs into Italy...
https://oldtimer-ersatzteile24.de/Produkte#/dfclassic/query=Pagode&query_name=match_and

perry113 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 02, 2019, 23:29:59 »

I actually have 2 of the firewall pads that were made by the forum a number of years ago.
I am familiar with Vintage Euro pads and although not made like the original does look good and are easy to install.
The ones that I have would require more work to properly install correctly.

mauro12 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 04, 2019, 13:00:32 »

Have you noticed a noise reduction inside the cabin after replacing the firewall pad?

mauro12 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 05, 2019, 15:04:40 »

I’ve just noticed that sls shop has for sale a firewall REPRO for only 54€. Have you ever tried? Is good material?

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Author Topic: Firewall pad (Read 8835 times)

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