Author Topic: The Stirling Moss Pagoda (Read 19665 times)

robbo65 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 25, 2019, 19:26:51 »

The car is currently at the back of an overfilled garage and is harder to photograph...
The second image is of the vent to the hardtop, which we are led to believe was also at the behest of Stirling Moss.
(Sorry - not sure why the first image rotated on upload)

robbo65 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2019, 19:30:13 »

Thanks again Achim.
My first name is Ian - "robbo" is a nickname!
Your insight is incredibly helpful and I hope that by adding what little we have, goes someway to filling in some of those blanks...

mbzse · « **Reply #27 on:** January 25, 2019, 19:34:55 »

Quote from: robbo65

.../...The second image is of the vent to the hardtop, which we are led to believe was also at the behest of Stirling Moss

Ian, that is amazing

Wow
That vent flap makes this truly to be a "one-in-the-world" Pagoda HardTop! And with such provinence. I am in awe...

114015 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 25, 2019, 19:38:30 »

Great work, Ian,
Great pictures....!

Thanks a lot for sharing this info with us!

As you have already experienced, we are eager on such kind of info
with such a hugely interesting car!

This hardtop vent flap is incredible...! We need to place this into serial production!!

I am awaiting more news on this.

Best,

Achim

robbo65 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 25, 2019, 19:45:21 »

Again, thank you both for your incredibly positive feedback!
I dare say, having lived with the car at the back of a dusty garage all these years, we have just taken it's presence for granted!!!
We are a little bit overwhelmed with all that we have learned in just 24 hours or so...
We will make obtaining a copy of the Data Card a priority.
I'm not sure there is anything else I can add for now I'm sad to say - but please do continue to ask questions and I will answer any that I can.

robbo65 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 25, 2019, 20:16:47 »

I will leave you tonight with 2 more images...
One of the interior and one of Stirling Moss autographing the Log Book with my father-in-law in 1981, when he was visiting Belfast...

Pawel66 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 25, 2019, 21:15:05 »

I am very happy we came across this story!

I think the picture of your father in law and Sir Stirling Moss together adds a lot of flavour to the whole tale. Fantastic!

I think this car is a treassure.

By the way - the outside rear view mirror seems to be installed by Sir Stirling Moss or your father in law at some later stage.

I would, actually, be quite surprised if the car on the add was the actual M7 car of the famous owner. Market demands and logistics of the photo session would prevail, I am sure, over realism, which would not add a lot of value to the add.

Absolutely fantastic discovery!

This may be a topic for MB Classic magasine, actually.

robbo65 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 25, 2019, 21:37:58 »

Many thanks for you kind words Pawell66.
I started with the car and the serial numbers.
Today I have searched through old files and with the aid of you fine individuals, have perhaps indeed unearthed a treasure.
My father-in-law clearly appreciated what he had - the rest of us in the family, a little less so!
I will continue to endeavour to find the missing pieces of the jigsaw - the Data Card seems to be the main one.
As anything else comes to light I will of course share any findings.
Thank you all again!

49er · « **Reply #33 on:** January 25, 2019, 22:30:27 »

What a great story this is. The photo of your father in law and Stirling Moss is the icing on the cake. I along with all the members of this board will be anxious to hear what your data card's information provides. Regardless, your Pagoda is a treasure no matter who owned it.

John

robbo65 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 26, 2019, 00:00:11 »

For sure John...

Mike Hughes · « **Reply #35 on:** January 26, 2019, 02:02:55 »

Quote from: robbo65 on January 25, 2019, 20:16:47

I will leave you tonight with 2 more images...
One of the interior and one of Stirling Moss autographing the Log Book with my father-in-law in 1981, when he was visiting Belfast...

Comparing the interior shot and the Getty image it would appear that the gray paint color on the dash may likely be the original color. We all look forward to seeing what else you discover about your family's Pagoda.

Garry · « **Reply #36 on:** January 26, 2019, 02:15:23 »

Ian,

This is indeed a great story that obviously has some way to go yet. Great that you have found the Pagoda Group and some time in the future as all is revealed, this will make an excellent article for Pagoda World of an owners story.

No double Jon B our Pagoda World and Pagoda Notes Editor and fellow Board Member, is watching this story unfold with interest.

Garry

Jonny B · « **Reply #37 on:** January 26, 2019, 16:12:57 »

That is indeed a big "YES"

robbo65 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 26, 2019, 17:32:02 »

My Wife plans to contact our dealership next week to get the Data Card sorted out, will keep you all posted!

Shvegel · « **Reply #39 on:** February 06, 2019, 08:57:03 »

In contrast to the John Lennon 230SL if M7 was indeed owned by Sir Sterling Moss who was not only a famous racing driver but one who drove for Mercedes would make for a huge increase in value. Keep digging and keep us updated.

robbo65 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 02, 2019, 10:02:33 »

Apologies all for the delay in adding further to this thread but life and all it throws at us, had centre stage these past months!
Finally, I can share the Data Card which confirms the Stirling Moss connection.
It also confirms the Chassis Number.
There is a discrepancy with the final digits of the Engine Number - other than it possibly not being the same engine, perhaps someone on here who can decipher the content better than I can, could shed some light on what, if anything this means in the grand scheme of things.
As with previously, Sarah and I would welcome any comments you may have to add to this story!

Best Regards,
Ian Robertson

robbo65 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 02, 2019, 10:19:16 »

Here is an image of the actual Engine Number...

450sl · « **Reply #42 on:** September 02, 2019, 12:03:10 »

Robbo,

At the bottom of the orderform it says;

code 992 ; Engine must be specially selected on the Dynotech for best maximum performance .

robbo65 · « **Reply #43 on:** September 02, 2019, 13:00:54 »

I appreciate the translation.
My O Level German is extremely rusty - was going to have a go at it later!

Pawel66 · « **Reply #44 on:** September 02, 2019, 15:51:12 »

Wow! Code 992 - what a code to have!

neelyrc · « **Reply #45 on:** September 02, 2019, 19:33:51 »

Fantastic Ian, thanks for reactivating this thread. We look forward to hearing more about this very special car. At this point do you have a plan for revival? Will it be or has it been removed from storage. Please keep us posted.

Jonny B · « **Reply #46 on:** September 03, 2019, 10:44:35 »

As was stated earlier, would make a great story for Pagoda World....!

Shvegel · « **Reply #47 on:** September 03, 2019, 18:39:07 »

What a great find. Not only a car that was custom ordered (special wishes in Porsche speak) of which there are very few that I am aware of but one that was custom ordered by a successful Mercedes racing driver. I dare say that might be the most valuable pagoda of them all. For not only your own enjoyment but for any future value I would suggest trying to get in contact with Sir Sterling Moss and asking about the modifications. He may be able to shed some light on them and any correspondence from him would only add to the value of the car.

robbo65 · « **Reply #48 on:** September 03, 2019, 19:23:51 »

Cheers all for the positive vibes!
Will of course keep you posted once we catch our breath...

Pawel66 · « **Reply #49 on:** September 03, 2019, 20:12:49 »

I think Shvegel's idea is definitely worth pursuing!

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