best technical manual

[jim 56]

I'm new to this I have a 1972 280 SE with Six cyl.mfi  and would like to find out which book is best i see one that is
passenger cars staring 1968
series 108-109-111-113
maintenance tuning unit replacement
It is a very expensive book and if anybody thinks this is the best one, buy it
Thanks Jim

[dirkbalter]

Jim,
I believe you are referring to the so called BBB which is the most detailed one. There is also a Haynes manual available. A German version of the BBB is available online. See below.
(I think The BBB is the best)

http://mercedesclubs.de/books/werkstatthandbuecher/WHBab1968/

[scoot]

It is a very expensive book and if anybody thinks this is the best one, buy it

You need that book.  Watch ebay for a while.  Sometimes they come up cheap.  I was selling mine for $99 each in good condition but ran out except for the set I'm keeping (I had been collecting them for unknown reasons...)

[WRe]

Hi,
here you find a lot of information online: https://mercedesclubs.de/anleitungen.
E.g.
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/SI/ServiceInformationBand2englisch/
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/WHB/WHB-ab-1968/
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/WHB/WAB-Modelle1972-80-E/
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/WHB/OwnersWorkshopManual/
...WRe

[MikeSimon]

A word of caution about the BBB:
If you are looking to get condensed and specific, precise information for a specific model, the BBB is NOT the place to look for. Many, many service issues and details are actually hidden in consolidated info for many models. It takes an experienced expert like Joe Alexander (thanks Joe!) to tell you where to look in that book.
Also, these books, like almost all manufacturer issued service manuals are written to support the factory dealer mechanic, who went through quite extensive OEM training. A lot of techniques and methods are not explained because they are considered specific mechanics skills. Any hobby wrencher may be better off with a specific service manual for his/her model by Haynes or else.
Just my opinion and experience.

[Benz Dr.]

A word of caution about the BBB:
If you are looking to get condensed and specific, precise information for a specific model, the BBB is NOT the place to look for. Many, many service issues and details are actually hidden in consolidated info for many models. It takes an experienced expert like Joe Alexander (thanks Joe!) to tell you where to look in that book.
Also, these books, like almost all manufacturer issued service manuals are written to support the factory dealer mechanic, who went through quite extensive OEM training. A lot of techniques and methods are not explained because they are considered specific mechanics skills. Any hobby wrencher may be better off with a specific service manual for his/her model by Haynes or else.
Just my opinion and experience.

I can't disagree with what you've said but I will add that one has to go backwards through older factory manuals to find specific information in many cases. As an example, you are expected to know how piston rings are mounted and that info is not contained in the BBB. You have to go back to the 190 workshop manual to find that.

[Peter van Es]

Hi,
here you find a lot of information online: https://mercedesclubs.de/anleitungen.
E.g.
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/SI/ServiceInformationBand2englisch/
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/WHB/WHB-ab-1968/
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/WHB/WAB-Modelle1972-80-E/
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/WHB/OwnersWorkshopManual/
...WRe

Excellent WRe, I've added this to the Tech Manual in the BBB section.
I do hope VDH as a german club has obtained permission from Daimler Benz to publish this.... otherwise they won't be there for long!

See: https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Documents/Start

[Cees Klumper]

I bought a BBB a long time ago, but have never once used it. Too cumbersome as others have described. I have used the Haynes manual, but mostly I use this site (forums, technical manual).

[MikeSimon]

Excellent WRe, I've added this to the Tech Manual in the BBB section.
I do hope VDH as a german club has obtained permission from Daimler Benz to publish this.... otherwise they won't be there for long!

See: https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Documents/Start

I have several publications from the VDH and it says right on them: "In cooperation with Daimler Benz"

[mrfatboy]

I have several publications from the VDH and it says right on them: "In cooperation with Daimler Benz"

Do you have any other VDH publications other than the ones WRE posted that are relevant to Pagodas? Links?

thx

[MikeSimon]

Yes. I have two W113 parts manuals. one for body, one for engine M130. I posted about these in another thread. trying to find it. Have no links.

edit:

Look here:

https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=29830.msg216218#msg216218

[mrfatboy]

Yes. I have two W113 parts manuals. one for body, one for engine M130. I posted about these in another thread. trying to find it. Have no links.

edit:

Look here:

https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=29830.msg216218#msg216218

I was referring to any other online manuals on the VDH website other than what WRE posted.

[WRe]

Hi,
just follow the links,there are a lot more:
- https://mercedesclubs.de/anleitungen/100-sl-klasse/71-w-113
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/EFS/EFS-Motoreinstellungab68/
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/WHB/WHB-Motoren-M-100-116-130/#
- https://vdhflipbooks.de/books/KAT/MotorenkatalogM130E/
...WRe