Author Topic: Alloy Wheels (Read 8040 times)

MikeSimon · « **on:** December 06, 2019, 21:49:44 »

I have 6x14 Fuchs Alloys on my 280SL. I was reading in the tech section that "it is assumed" an adapter was fitted by the factory to mount the spare on the post in the trunk.
I do not have this, as the alloys were added later by a P/O. Does anybody know for a fact that something like this was available, does someone have one, can someone post a picture?

114015 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 06, 2019, 23:08:56 »

Hello Mike,

Original factory alumin(i)um wheel cars can be distinguished with the code 64/0 on the data card.

Yes, and AFAIK these ones had a slightly different bracket for the spare wheel in the trunk, but I cannot confirm for sure right now.
(Was desperately seeking in the parts lists but could not yet find the alloy wheel replacement for the regular "Erstzradhalter" (spare wheel carrier) A113 890 0081

I'll keep on looking ... )

Achim

MikeSimon · « **Reply #2 on:** December 06, 2019, 23:57:17 »

Thank you Achim. I am aware of the option code. My car was not ordered with alloys from the factory. As far as I recall, the post in the trunk is welded to the floor??? If there was a different one from the factory, it would be hard to change. What I was reading was about an "adapter".

johnk · « **Reply #3 on:** December 07, 2019, 04:29:11 »

Quote from: MikeSimon on December 06, 2019, 23:57:17

Thank you Achim. I am aware of the option code. My car was not ordered with alloys from the factory. As far as I recall, the post in the trunk is welded to the floor??? If there was a different one from the factory, it would be hard to change. What I was reading was about an "adapter"

Mike I believe it’s actually bolted to the floor. I took mine out to refinish when I did my trunk.

WRe · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2019, 08:19:15 »

Hi,
attached a picture of both spare wheel trunk adapters (steel and alloy).
...WRe

MikeSimon · « **Reply #5 on:** December 07, 2019, 16:31:23 »

Cool! Do you have both? Can you take a couple of pics of the alloy wheel holder. I may be able to make myself one.

Shvegel · « **Reply #6 on:** December 07, 2019, 16:37:24 »

Mike,
I need one too. If we can get dimensions you can stop up and we can knock a couple out. Have lathe, TIG milling machine etc. A picture of the underside of the top bit would be really helpful.

WRe · « **Reply #7 on:** December 07, 2019, 18:08:02 »

Sorry but I've only this picture found in Pagodentreff.de. I will ask these guys for more information.
...WRe

MikeSimon · « **Reply #8 on:** December 07, 2019, 18:36:08 »

If memory serves me well, the spare steel wheel was mounted on the post with the outside down and the inside up. It looks like from the picture, that the alloy wheel was mounted the other way around. I assume, the spare wheel cover will no longer work then? Anybody here with an alloy spare in the trunk?

MikeSimon · « **Reply #9 on:** December 10, 2019, 00:21:25 »

So, it looks like two of us would be up to make a post for the alloy spare wheel. All we need is SOMEONE to give us some info what it exactly looks like, with some dimensions.

??

MikeSimon · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2019, 19:50:38 »

Nobody seems to have an alloy spare mounted in the trunk...!?!

Berggreen · « **Reply #11 on:** January 14, 2020, 06:44:27 »

Quote from: MikeSimon on December 10, 2019, 00:21:25

So, it looks like two of us would be up to make a post for the alloy spare wheel. All we need is SOMEONE to give us some info what it exactly looks like, with some dimensions.??

I would also be interested in one!

I will also go to the large Classic Messe in Essen, Germany in late March, and I will look out for one. Let you know if I find one and where to buy it.

/Christian

Desertpagoda · « **Reply #12 on:** January 14, 2020, 12:50:01 »

I made one of these years ago. Simple to make out of steel stock, bolts in/out. Cover no longer works

WRe · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2020, 15:09:41 »

Hi,
any new progress for this alloy spare mounted in the trunk?
...WRe

scoot · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2020, 14:18:33 »

Quote from: Desertpagoda on January 14, 2020, 12:50:01

.... Cover no longer works

Why does the cover no longer work? The cover would be specific to the tire size, not the wheel I would think... Or is it because the cover is secured to the wheel?

cfm65@me.com · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2020, 16:49:51 »

Scott,
Remember the cover is also a tool bag with a zip. The steelies go upside down in order to facilitate the tool bag inside the rim, where as the ally rims are mounted face up, in the boot.
Therefore the cover might fit, but you sacrifice the tool bag space.
Regards
Chris

scoot · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2020, 16:54:08 »

Quote from: cfm65@me.com on March 15, 2020, 16:49:51

Remember the cover is also a tool bag with a zip. The steelies go upside down in order to facilitate the tool bag inside the rim, where as the ally rims are mounted face up, in the boot.
Therefore the cover might fit, but you sacrifice the tool bag space.

Ah! I hadn't thought of that. I guess MB didn't think of it either. Thanks, I know more now! Scott

Berggreen · « **Reply #17 on:** May 07, 2020, 09:12:06 »

Quote from: WRe on March 14, 2020, 15:09:41

Hi,
any new progress for this alloy spare mounted in the trunk?
...WRe

I am also curious if anyone has found a place to buy a post for the alloy Barok wheels.

Thanx,

Christian

MikeSimon · « **Reply #18 on:** May 07, 2020, 12:27:04 »

As soon as this restrictive situation is over, I will have some made. I will try to come up with the design, but a close-up picture of an original one would really help

Berggreen · « **Reply #19 on:** May 07, 2020, 13:17:49 »

Quote from: MikeSimon on May 07, 2020, 12:27:04

As soon as this restrictive situation is over, I will have some made. I will try to come up with the design, but a close-up picture of an original one would really help

Great, thanks Mike. I would really like to buy one from you, when you have them made.

Unfortunately, I think the best picture, I have seen up to now, is the one already posted above in this thread. But maybe someone has some more?

In addition, it is also depicted on the original spare part drawings, like from here: http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_SubGroupAction.php?lang=G&mode=BM&class=1&aggtyp=FG&catalog=249&model=113044&group=89&subgrp=001

Thanks for your effort and fingers X'ed that we can soon return to normal conditions.

/Christian

MikeSimon · « **Reply #20 on:** May 08, 2020, 12:22:10 »

Chris:

The parts catalog image is for the standard holder for the steel wheel. It is shorter, because the wheel is mounted with the outside down to provide the dish for the tools. The alloy wheel holder is longer because the wheel will sit with the outside up and the holder has to reach through the longer hub of the wheel.

Berggreen · « **Reply #21 on:** May 08, 2020, 12:55:08 »

Quote from: MikeSimon on May 08, 2020, 12:22:10

Chris:

The parts catalog image is for the standard holder for the steel wheel. It is shorter, because the wheel is mounted with the outside down to provide the dish for the tools. The alloy wheel holder is longer because the wheel will sit with the outside up and the holder has to reach through the longer hub of the wheel.

Hi Mike

Actually the drawing I linked to above is for the alloy rim. The one for the standard steel rims are shorter and flatter as you also write.

See the standard holder here as nr. 115: https://www.sls-hh-shop.de/main/de/mercedes-230-280sl-w113-40-r-der-und-kardanwelle-c-3_69

Cheers,
Christian

cfm65@me.com · « **Reply #22 on:** May 08, 2020, 16:06:32 »

Scott,
Mercedes probably gave it a bit more thought than you credit them.
The ally rims are stowed face up, in order to prevent any damage to the face, thus the long discussion about the higher/longer mounting.
Chris

MikeSimon · « **Reply #23 on:** May 09, 2020, 17:53:47 »

The perspective in the photo is a little misleading. It seems the round part of the allow wheel holder is short also and it has a bracket-type support that lifts it up higher.
Once I cut some parts, I may have to play around with them a little to find the best solution. May end up being a custom part, not exactly like the original

Berggreen · « **Reply #24 on:** May 09, 2020, 18:52:22 »

Quote from: MikeSimon on May 09, 2020, 17:53:47

The perspective in the photo is a little misleading. It seems the round part of the allow wheel holder is short also and it has a bracket-type support that lifts it up higher.
Once I cut some parts, I may have to play around with them a little to find the best solution. May end up being a custom part, not exactly like the original

Thanx Mike, sounds great!!

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Author Topic: Alloy Wheels (Read 8040 times)