Author Topic: Valve Cover Sticker (Read 12221 times)

MikeSimon · « **on:** February 03, 2020, 20:34:27 »

I wonder if any of our friends in Germany/Europe has some pointers where to get a valve cover sticker for my German spec 280SL
Please note the completely different appearance to anything that is usually out there on the market. This is another mystery that goes with the unique cylinder head that is on my car

WRe · « **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2020, 21:09:40 »

Hi,
maybe here: https://www.mbig.eu/epages/62120707.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/62120707/Products/50061.
...WRe

Pawel66 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2020, 21:28:10 »

Curious wht this is going to bring this time!

I remeber our search last time...

Benz Dr. · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2020, 23:19:07 »

Authentic Classics should have this sticker.

MikeSimon · « **Reply #4 on:** February 04, 2020, 00:50:04 »

Everybody has a valve cover sticker. I have not seen one like the one on my car. the one available in the link from mbig (Thanks WRe!) has the correct CO2 values but is otherwise different. I may be anal, it is not about a quest for originality, but there are a few things with this car that are really, really unique and I hate to lose these.

Garry · « **Reply #5 on:** February 04, 2020, 03:56:02 »

I had a couple of OEM valve cover stickers but need to have a look to see what they were. Will check this weekend

Garry

MikeSimon · « **Reply #6 on:** February 04, 2020, 13:07:02 »

Thanks, Garry.

As it is a German car, it is unlikely anybody in North America would have that particular sticker.

Garry · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2020, 02:20:05 »

Mike,

This is an original one that i have for the 130 engine but looks slightly different to your original.

If it is pm me an address and i can post it to you.

Garry

WRe · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2020, 07:56:38 »

Hi,
found this on Pagodentreff.
..WRe

Pawel66 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2020, 09:06:11 »

That is the historical moment!

Now to find it to buy...

mrfatboy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2020, 11:28:41 »

@MikeSimom

Is the picture you posted at the beginning of this thread your current valve cover decal?

If so, what are the dimensions? Alpinaltd (a forum member ) has the talent to take WRE's picture and create a very close reproduction. He could also use the pertinent parts of the US decal.

Assuming he has time of course🤣🤣😁😁😁

@Garry,

Can you repost a scanned picture of your decals and provide the dimensions of it? This will make even easier for Alpinaltd 👍

I might even give it a shot this weekend👍

Peter h · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2020, 11:51:51 »

That would be great.
Peter

mrfatboy · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2020, 12:17:55 »

If you look at WRE's decal in the lower left corner you can see what looks like it could be a "108" part number. Couple this Mike Simon's post that he has a "unique" cylinder head.

Is there a possible connection?

MikeSimon · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2020, 15:41:24 »

Wow! That's the sticker!, WRe. Really, now how to find it to buy. yes, it could be a 108 part, but all the markings say it is applicable to the SL (113) too. My cylinder head says 280SEL/SL on it and is - as far as I know - the original part. I own the car since 1982 and the was no major engine work done before I bought it.

stickandrudderman · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2020, 16:25:30 »

The details on the sticker in the picture Gary has posted ARE NOT CORRECT for a pagoda.
The details on the sticker that Wre has posted are correct.

mrfatboy · « **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2020, 16:37:29 »

Here is the decal that authentic classics sells that is similar to Garry's. Notice that the part number is different. I'm not saying either is correct or not.

I have also gone through the late Bob Geco's decal catalog (maybe early version) and there is no reference to either decal.

https://www.authenticclassics.com/Valve-Cover-Label-Decal-for-Mercedes-280SL-p/auth-003776.htm

MikeSimon · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2020, 16:55:55 »

Many of the stickers differ in the CO2 number. It depends on what country the car was intended for. I think the U.S. models had a lower number than the European ones.
looking at WRe's picture again, that sticker is not the one either, unfortunately. Where mine has the CO2 range listed, that sticker has some transmission info.
The search goes on!

mrfatboy · « **Reply #17 on:** February 08, 2020, 17:02:31 »

Notice the two pictographs in WRE's decal. They are what looks like a

1) manual gear shift on a transmission
2) automatic shift designation plate with red mark on P (Park)

The gear shift lever is a shorter non pagoda version.

I have never seen a horizontal shift position designation on a pagoda. Someone with an automatic can comment.

MikeSimon · « **Reply #18 on:** February 08, 2020, 17:05:07 »

If the numbers on the lower left corner are the part-numbers for the sticker, mine is 108 584 07 40 and WRe's is 108 584 03 40

alpina · « **Reply #19 on:** February 08, 2020, 17:06:40 »

The valve decal i reproduced is as per Garry's and Authentic Classics. it can be found in the technical manual.
https://www.sl113.org/wiki/uploads/Restricted/EngineeringTags.pdf

Given a bit more info a new decal could be reproduced...

MikeSimon · « **Reply #20 on:** February 08, 2020, 17:16:18 »

I found an engine for sale on ebay Germany that has the same cylinder head on it as my SL. The first one I found besides mine. It is, however, installed on a M130-980 and the motor is a "Tauschagregat". So, no telling if the head is original to the motor.
Seller claims it is for W113, which is not really the case.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-280SL-W113-Pagode-MOTOR-M-130980-280SEL-SL-komplett-gebraucht/382867692204?hash=item5924b15aac:g:NZYAAOSwEqVcM1aR

mrfatboy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 08, 2020, 17:35:18 »

Has anyone actually seen a decal like WRE & Garry that are on a pagoda?

Peter h · « **Reply #22 on:** February 08, 2020, 19:59:40 »

There is something wrong with this engine? ... Peter

alpina · « **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2020, 20:51:42 »

Okay Micheal (Mrfatboy) you had to get me involved in all this. Given the very poor images of said
decal this is the best i could do. If you can find one else where, good luck.
Enjoy. Just remember this when i need some help...

All the best.

DM.

MikeSimon · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2020, 21:05:27 »

Alpinaltd: That is really awesome. This is really close! From what I can still make out on my old decal, the idle rpm is given as 750 +/_ 50 and there are two red arrows in the intake and outlet of the left side schematic. I see several decals for different engines that have some, but not all the same features.

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Author Topic: Valve Cover Sticker (Read 12221 times)