Author Topic: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2 (Read 14080 times)

Jonny B · « **on:** February 15, 2020, 03:10:27 »

Well Pagoda-ites - I think I just re-cornered the market on the square exhaust tips. Palm Beach Classics had a pair for sale, and I could not help myself.

Just got them today.

We had a thread with a similar title but I could not reply to that, locked out for time I believe. So this is the latest update.

mbzse · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2020, 10:37:22 »

Quote from: Jonny B

.../...square exhaust tips.../...Just got them today

Nice catch

This is what the exhaust tips looked like on our SL's when they left the Factory.
Today, only the rolled (rounded) end is available

ja17 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2020, 15:36:09 »

Somehow the square ends look more elegant and match the "architectural lines" of the pagoda.

GM · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2020, 16:40:55 »

Here's the previous thread: https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=25070.0

Pawel66 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2020, 22:01:44 »

Quote from: ja17 on February 15, 2020, 15:36:09

Somehow the square ends look more elegant and match the "architectural lines" of the pagoda.

Exactly - it is amazing - such a small detail and makes so much difference...

neelyrc · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2020, 03:27:29 »

Quote from: Jonny B on February 15, 2020, 03:10:27

Well Pagoda-ites - I think I just re-cornered the market on the square exhaust tips. Palm Beach Classics had a pair for sale, and I could not help myself.

Just got them today.

We had a thread with a similar title but I could not reply to that, locked out for time I believe. So this is the latest update.

Jonny B,
Very nice find, I heard on the grapevine that you had the market cornered long before you found this pair! If you find them cluttering up your storage space just let me know. They would look very nice on my “mostly original” 280SL! 😎

TJMart · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2020, 04:12:31 »

It would be nice to see a pic with them installed! Great find!

mazmonza · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2020, 11:22:07 »

I have had several sets of original tips over the 42 years of owning my car, the last set disappeared while at a well known Mercedes dealer in London to have the back end fixed after I was hit in the rear by another pagoda while stationary at a junction in Germany.

Anyway what I was getting to was the hollow square section seamed vulnerable to denting hence the several sets while having the car so I decided to get some made and am very pleased with the outcome, the square section is solid bronze so no fear of denting ( shouldn't need another set )

Maurice

Jonny B · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2020, 15:41:45 »

Here is a snap of the ones on my 250 SL. Had to get close in to be able to see the detail.

Very cool Maurice. Did you take a set of the rounded tips and use those for the transplant.

mazmonza · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2020, 15:54:59 »

Thanks Jonny, yes I used a pair of after market stainless, the dimples are there on the other side. All chromed

GM · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2020, 17:42:42 »

Nice, Maurice.
What are the dimensions of the brass ring you added - width and thickness - to match the originals?

mazmonza · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2020, 19:12:54 »

I WILL GET THE MEASUREMENTS, I KNOW THEY ARE NOT EXACT AS IT WAS DONE FROM MEMORY.
IF YOU WANT IT EXACT YOU WILL HAVE TO SPEAK TO JONNY.

hauser · « **Reply #12 on:** March 09, 2020, 16:06:02 »

I found a machine shop willing to make a custom tips for me but I need the tip dimensions. Any help would be great!

Thanks!!

Jonny B · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2020, 16:31:46 »

NOTE - SEE UPDATED DIAGRAM posted on 15 March 2020 to give more exact dimensions.

The inner/diameter of the tube and length are the same as a current MB tip.

The square edge is 4 mm long at the outside gently tapering to 3 mm at where it meets the outer diameter of the tube. I am not able to get a read of the height of the square edge. I will bring this along to our Pagodas and Beer event on the 21st to have a cross check on the dimensions.

Pawel66 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2020, 22:12:33 »

Quote from: hauser on March 09, 2020, 16:06:02

I found a machine shop willing to make a custom tips for me but I need the tip dimensions. Any help would be great!

Thanks!!

I would buy a couple, if the price is known and I can afford it...
+shipment +tax +duty

hauser · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2020, 04:06:55 »

Just got two new sacrificial tips from the classic center. I'll stop by Monday and see what he can do.

Pawel66 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2020, 08:25:32 »

ok, so it works - you give the tips, he flattens the rims?

hauser · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2020, 12:04:13 »

I have no idea what he would want to do or how he would want to do it.

Pawel66 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2020, 12:30:09 »

ok, I see

. Thank you.

Jonny B · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2020, 19:36:37 »

UPDATE - I was able to use a digital caliper to get a better take on the dimensions.

I have posted the update photo.

Also I checked a couple of the other square tips (the ones on the car) and noticed that they did not have the very slight angle from the outside of the square lip to where it meets the outer overall tube. That tells me there were some slight manufacturing variations.

hauser · « **Reply #20 on:** March 18, 2020, 15:55:47 »

Update

Everything is at the machine shop. Hopefully He will get it done sometime soon.

66andBlue · « **Reply #21 on:** April 19, 2020, 04:36:07 »

Still at the shop? Any news or updates?

hauser · « **Reply #22 on:** April 19, 2020, 05:08:08 »

I haven't been there lately nor has he called me. I will make a point of seeing him this Monday and gt an update.

Iconic · « **Reply #23 on:** April 20, 2020, 14:11:56 »

Somehow these appear to be original.
Picture #165 on a Bring a Trailer sale : https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-mercedes-benz-280sl-37/

Joe (Ja17) caught it and commented in the thread.

hauser · « **Reply #24 on:** April 20, 2020, 15:41:36 »

I just got back from Blackert Machine and he was not there. None of my phone calls have been returned. I do have another place in mind and will report back.

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