Author Topic: heyco 300 (Read 5300 times)

Desertpagoda · « **on:** May 23, 2020, 00:45:39 »

Found these in the trunk of a 69 I bot today, is the stamped in MERCEDES BENZ typical?

mrfatboy · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2020, 00:52:14 »

Jackpot 👍 Early version. Diamond jaws. What is the build date of your car? They switched to oval jaws later.

mbzse · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2020, 01:01:11 »

Quote from: Desertpagoda

.../...is the stamped in MERCEDES BENZ typical?

No, somewhat unusual.
In fact, I hardly saw it before. If convenient, add a couple of pictures.

mrfatboy · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2020, 01:04:16 »

Quote from: mbzse on May 23, 2020, 01:01:11

No, very unusual.
In fact, I have never seen it before! If convenient, add a couple of pictures.

Really?, I thought these were the early versions? Is the "Mercedes-Benz" stamp the strange part? 🤔

mbzse · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2020, 01:09:40 »

Quote from: mrfatboy

.../...Is the "Mercedes-Benz" stamp the strange part? 🤔

Well, at least unusual...
I enclose a couple of images of Heyco 300 "diamond shape jaws"
One actually has the same M-B text stamped in

mrfatboy · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2020, 01:16:50 »

Hans, you made me get off the couch and go look what I have🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mine match DesertPagodas. Doesn't mean they are correct tho. I thought/hope they were/are🤣

Desertpagoda · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2020, 01:29:10 »

found them in the trunk of a 69 euro 300sel 6.3 in a big toolkit

mrfatboy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2020, 01:31:07 »

Doh 😳

Desertpagoda · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2020, 11:50:16 »

couple more pics

Jonny B · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2020, 15:05:56 »

Couldn't let mrfatboy get ahead of me on this. I checked what I have and sure enough, one had the "Mercedes Benz" stamped in. Picture included, with the original wax paper wrapper...

Esmo · « **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2020, 14:41:51 »

The technical manual describes the correct pliers for the Pagoda, I always thought that a tool pre 1990 would be stamped West Germany or W Germany ,post 1990 stamped Germany .

Jonny B · « **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2020, 16:53:52 »

I went to take a look at a sampling of the tools I have. There does not appear to be any consistency on the use of "West Germany" or "Germany" most are stamped with "Germany" - the Heyco pliers I have have "Germany" molded into the metal handle. As noted in the photo, I also have some that have the engraving.

MikeSimon · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2020, 17:33:40 »

The "Made in Germany" id was always just that, never W Germany or West Germany. Can't say anything about the stamping on the tools, though.

66andBlue · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2020, 18:30:34 »

Not so fast Mike.

There are plenty of tools on eBay marked "W.Germany":
https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=werkzeug+W.Germany&_sacat=18323&LH_TitleDesc=1&_osacat=18323&_odkw=werkzeug

If you go outside the tools trade you'll find that the location identification becomes important, for example, when you look for pottery items. When Germany became divided into the BDR and DDR many eastern porcelain manufacturers built new factories in the west but had to identify the products made there as such.

Jonny B · « **Reply #14 on:** July 06, 2020, 15:48:25 »

I was not clear in my post. When I looked at the tools I had in my "stash" I did have some (wrenches and pliers) that were marked as West Germany, W. Germany and Western Germany.

MikeSimon · « **Reply #15 on:** July 06, 2020, 19:36:28 »

Yes, there are tools marked that. I was referring to the moniker "Made in Germany". I was born there and lived there for 36 years and never saw anything marked "Made in West Germany". Must not have looked right.

dirkbalter · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2020, 23:10:05 »

Quote from: MikeSimon on July 05, 2020, 17:33:40

The "Made in Germany" id was always just that, never W Germany or West Germany. Can't say anything about the stamping on the tools, though.

Mike, I do recall made in West Germany. See my toy truck.
Dirk

mdsalemi · « **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2020, 18:46:14 »

Quote from: MikeSimon on July 06, 2020, 19:36:28

Yes, there are tools marked that. I was referring to the moniker "Made in Germany". I was born there and lived there for 36 years and never saw anything marked "Made in West Germany". Must not have looked right.

Didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for "Made in Germany" vs. "Made in West[ern] Germany". There are a number of ceramic and porcelain stamps that are the latter--just look them up. Cameras such as Leica, Voightlander and Kodak AG all say just "Made in Germany" even when it was very much West Germany.

One of the most notable of the "East German" cameras of the 1950s and 60s was the Exacta. That was only marked "Ihagee Dresden" indicating the company and location. Their lenses were often marked "Carl Zeiss Jena" until the West German firm Zeiss got upset and then they were marked just Jena or Jena-Optik.

So you'll see both...on a variety of things.

Benz Dr. · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2020, 18:57:26 »

I've seen 190SL's with a tag that says " Made in West Germany " so it must have been a thing for MB for a while at least.

dirkbalter · « **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2020, 21:47:30 »

Quote from: mdsalemi on July 08, 2020, 18:46:14

Didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for "Made in Germany" vs. "Made in West[ern] Germany". There are a number of ceramic and porcelain stamps that are the latter--just look them up. Cameras such as Leica, Voightlander and Kodak AG all say just "Made in Germany" even when it was very much West Germany.

One of the most notable of the "East German" cameras of the 1950s and 60s was the Exacta. That was only marked "Ihagee Dresden" indicating the company and location. Their lenses were often marked "Carl Zeiss Jena" until the West German firm Zeiss got upset and then they were marked just Jena or Jena-Optik.

So you'll see both...on a variety of things.

Clearly off topic but since you are talking about cameras and "Made in......".

mdsalemi · « **Reply #20 on:** July 11, 2020, 12:12:46 »

Quote from: dirkbalter on July 08, 2020, 21:47:30

Clearly off topic but since you are talking about cameras and "Made in......".

“Those from the east” stole a lot of tooling for many products immediately postwar. What they didn’t steal they copied. They were even known for copying before the war. Totally shameless. I say “from the east” because it’s too easy to annoy and offend even when the guilty are well known. You can look at the link below. The quality of cameras from Leica, Contax, Voightlander, and other German manufacturers was very consistent and well-known. The copies from all those who shall not be named were all over the map, some of them comically bad and some of them quite good—but stolen designs and copies nonetheless.

Dirk you have a collectors item!!!

https://photography.tutsplus.com/articles/a-guide-to-russian-soviet-former-soviet-cameras--photo-3880

dirkbalter · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2020, 01:36:38 »

Mike,
Probably not, lol.
It used to be my Dads camera. He loved it and it was probably the only one he could afford at the time. It’s one of the few things I kept as a memory, doesn’t matter what it’s worth.
BTW, found one more “Made in…”

Desertpagoda · « **Reply #22 on:** July 26, 2020, 22:20:56 »

Knipex rox! They are still the best quality tool on a Snapon truck!

Shvegel · « **Reply #23 on:** July 27, 2020, 10:53:27 »

Snap on truck? Half the price on Amazon. I have even bought their slip joint pliers at Lowes a few years back.

https://www.amazon.com/KNIPEX-Tools-00-20-US1/dp/B000X4KNTG/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=knipex+pliers&qid=1595847241&sr=8-2

Desertpagoda · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2020, 00:54:21 »

lowes! Good for you! I bot mine 30 yrs ago!

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Author Topic: heyco 300 (Read 5300 times)