Peter, perhaps a sip of “Bols” Brandy might help temper your opinion that 111 post are making a mess of this site. Basically, as said in other comments, if you remove the “Skin” of our cars, many look very similar. There’s the “rub”, that commonality brings folks like me and other who own 111, and other models, in to the equation. I presently don’t own a 113, but I’ve owned two, selling my last, two years ago, and I’m looking for another suitable for restoration. I currently own a 111 Coupe and I find the forum very helpful with that car because of all the similar systems; engines & components, suspension, interior trim, & brakes, and more. I can’t see where that leads to a “mess”. LLLL