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CJHenderson

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Chain tensioner ball bearing
« on: October 02, 2020, 13:58:24 »
Is there suppose to be a tiny ball bearing on the end of the chain tensioner, and if so where can I get one since one didn't come out on tear down?
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Pawel66

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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2020, 14:59:18 »
I know about the ball, but not ball bearing...
Ball: N 005401 305000, available at MB dealers.

175 on the picture.

There are also a couple of bushings.
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2020, 22:04:13 »
Thank you so much I'll order it today. Again Thanks
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2020, 13:55:50 »
Unfortunately that part number has been reassigned to a part in a transmission, but the MB parts Dept. found the right P/N and it is in stock for $360 plus tax and shipping. I just went online to Amazon and found a box of assorted steel balls for $16 which by looks of it the right size is in that box.
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2020, 15:09:53 »
Something seems wrong.  Yes Mercedes can be expensive at times but this does not make sense.  I see the part available for less than $2  from any Mercedes dealer.

https://www.mbdirectparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-engine-timing-chain-tensioner-005401305000


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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2020, 15:16:59 »
Something seems wrong.  Yes Mercedes can be expensive at times but this does not make sense.  I see the part available for less than $2  from any Mercedes dealer.

https://www.mbdirectparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-engine-timing-chain-tensioner-005401305000

That is exactly what I saw. Something went wrong. Push on the dealer, they are not great in these old cars. The green dot in the picture means the part is available within 24h. Costs about $1 with VAT.
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2020, 16:09:48 »
Otherwise, if you can measure the correct ball size, you can buy 100 for less than $8.00 US ($ 0.07 each)!

https://www.mcmaster.com/steel-balls
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2020, 16:15:47 »
Thanks, but I don't have the ball. When I removed the tensioner it wasn't there. Hoping that I can get a close match since it will be going inside the slide I figure that it will not be a big deal.
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2020, 17:26:21 »
The dealers messed something up. You can also call Tom in Classic Center - he helped even me, form Europe.

You dropped the ball down the chain galley? uups...

I would buy and measure it for you, but I could pick it up next Friday....
« Last Edit: October 03, 2020, 17:34:38 by Pawel66 »
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2020, 23:52:17 »
The ball is 5mm diameter sold in quantities of 100 for less than $10 US plus shipping, from McMaster/Carr If you like. (part #9292K39 )

https://www.mcmaster.com/steel-balls/

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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2020, 12:43:03 »
Joe has the way to go. I dropped the ball from the tensioner on the garage floor and before I finally found it again, I went to McMaster Carr , 20 miles from my house and bought a bag of 100.
I am willing to part with a few that I do not need ;D if you are still in a pickle.
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2020, 14:33:54 »
Make sure the ball is not still inside the housing. It sits in a pocket of the plastic end piece which may be still lodged inside the tensioner housing.
Joe Alexander
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2020, 14:12:28 »
Got it! found in my ultrasonic cleaner. I was fishing parts out with a magnet and noticed this small ball next to the tensioner spring and other metal parts. Thanks to all for their inputs and advice.
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2020, 17:09:06 »
You moved lots of people on both sides of the ocean just to say now you found it in the cleaner??

 ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2020, 23:13:55 »
Sorry about all of the fuss. Never saw the ball when I removed the tensioner unit and figured that it was never there when I started to reinstall it.
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2020, 06:19:47 »
Well the good news is that you found it and we know Mike has a lifetime supply of those for the whole pagoda group!
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2020, 09:01:13 »
Sorry about all of the fuss. Never saw the ball when I removed the tensioner unit and figured that it was never there when I started to reinstall it.

Just kidding!  ;) ;)

Now everybody in the future will know the size, PN and the sources of supply.
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Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2020, 13:51:33 »
 :) :) 8)
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