Right Hand mirror help

[StevenF]

I have a right hand mirror on my pagoda. 
for some reason, the glass pops out constantly.
I have changed the glass& the retainer ring and it still continues.

Is it true that if I have convex glass (I am not sure if what I have is flat vs convex) that a special retainer ring is required?

Everyone on the site seems to agree that convex is they way to go so all suggestions/ assistance is appreciated
Steven

[Pawel66]

I switched to convex and did not find a different part number for a retainer for convex glass.

Also: if you bought aftermarket retainer, I would try one from MB dealer.

[66andBlue]

There is this warning on the AuthenticClassics web site:
"Please check compatibility with your model, the Convex glass uses a different retaining ring which is no longer available, if you do no currently have this type of Mirror and Retaining ring the glass will not fit correctly."
https://www.authenticclassics.com/Convex-Mirror-Glass-for-Optional-outside-Mirrors-p/auth-002816.htm

[StevenF]

I spoke with George this morning....

[Pawel66]

Thank you Alfred, I got curious myself. In the EPC I see:


A 108 811 00 65 Retaining ring    SA 55911/37 L.H.D.; RIGHT FRONT DOOR,CONVEX GLASS

A 108 811 00 65 Retaining ring SA 55911/14 RIGHT FRONT DOOR,PLANE GLASS

And also with no SA, just as you order for left hand side mirror in LHD: A 108 811 00 65

I bought convex glass and those two retainers several years ago - nothing happens... curious myself.

Why would you not buy these things at Mercedes? Glass + ring is $50 at the dealer while at Authentic Classics just glass is $47.

[66andBlue]

I bought mine from this seller years ago (before George offered one):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-280SL-280SE-600-OUTSIDE-CONVEX-MIRROR-GLASS-RING-108-109-111-113-100/143992107964

I remember that it was a bit finicky to install and the first one broke but the seller was very generous and sent me another one!

[Pawel66]

I wonder what the part number was. I do not suppose it was a set originally (glass+ring), probably the seller put it together. They are not listed as sets (there are mirrors, mirror heads, glass pieces and rings).

Installing is tricky indeed, especially if the ring has some years in the sun...

[StevenF]

from the classic center:
WE DO SELL THE CONVEX GLASS BUT CANNOT GET THE RING TO HOLD IT IN TRY A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR THE RING SEE HOW THEY REPLACE THE PART NUMBER T/W 115 811 00 65 WHICH IS THE RING
 
 
 

[Pawel66]

Yes, these are the part numbers I see as well. Look, I am not pushing "my option" I am just curious now (I have this set I am talking about and it works well for me). I do not want to, however, push option that may not work for anyone.

So let's see what Tom says.

You have:
   
A 115 811 00 65 RING SA 55911/37   L.H.D.; RIGHT FRONT DOOR,CONVEX GLASS; availability: forget it
footnote: As of ident. no.: 113.044 016318

and, as I said

A 108 811 00 65 RETAINING RING  SA 55911/37   L.H.D.; RIGHT FRONT DOOR,CONVEX GLASS; availability 72hours, ca $25
footnote: Up to ident. no.: 113.043 UNTIL PRODUCTION STOP 113.044 016317

At 044 016317 both the convex glass PN and its ring PN was changed (so far the regular ring was used for Convex glass). Then the glass with the new number is available now, the ring with the new number was discontinued and the previous ring is available (which is and was the regular ring). Looks to me Daimler decided that the regular ring is good enough and they delisted the new convex ring - this is my theory.

No idea what was the glass change at 016317.

The MB convex glass is a bit "blueish". My car has the VIN above 016317.

Installation was a bit tricky, as I said before, so maybe the fit is not perfect until the plastic settles - that is because the parts do not fit each other 100%. Eventually, however, it works.

[StevenF]

Pawel,
In no way are you pushing...I appreciate the input.  At the end of the day, I just want something that works....

[Pawel66]

Thanks! I said in my reply that the ring available fits both types of glass - which was my direct experience and it works for several years now. But it was not accurate - there was another part number, abandoned later, but there was something going on there. Alfred pointed it, fortunately. So it is one's call to try or to use regular glass. I do not want to appear to be pushing either way.

[Rahul]

@StevenF - did you manage to find a solution/source for the convex retaining ring? Facing the same conundrum!

Thanks

[StevenF]

Yes--I finally figured out the issue.

The convex mirror is larger than that of the flat so the retaining ring is really sized for the convex. 

I put the in the flat glass  (because I like the view much better in both right and left sides)and the the current white ring is in(but does not fit very well. 

What I did, is I took a sample piece piece of convex to my local glass guy and asked him to use that piece as a guide/template to cut me 2 fresh pieces of flat...he charged me 50.00 bucks....
I haven't picked them up yet but I will soon. 

If you don't hear from them my idea worked!

[mdsalemi]

Something I’m missing here…

When the classic center first offered convex glass for the Sideview mirrors, I bought two one for the left and one for the right. I popped the old glass out and the new convex glass in. There was no talk of nor any issue of retaining rings. Took me a couple of minutes.

Did something change when I wasn’t looking?

[Pawel66]

There used to be a different retaining ring for the convex mirror. Now it is NLA. I bought convex 3 or 4 years ago, I fitted it with the currently available retaining ring from MB and I would not know there is an issue until recently mentioned here on the Forum.

But it is difficult to advise: forget it, just use what is there as - if something happens, it will be my fault.

Truth is the fit is not that great, but the fit was not that great with the flat glass either.