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hauser

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Color of the month
« on: June 23, 2005, 12:31:13 »
Is it just me?  Has anyone else noticed all the Tobacco Brown 113's for sale lately?

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Gainesville, Fl.

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2005, 13:02:46 »
Hello James,

Personally I just believe this is because tobacco brown has always been a popular color in the states. Don't you think so?
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Achim
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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2005, 08:29:36 »
well theres a 280SL for sale in Dublin for the last two years.

http://carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=185290

the dealer cant shift it. I think it is a horrible colour IMHO.


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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2005, 04:47:29 »
Mmmmmm I've had mixed feeling on this colour too. Certainly that one in Duiblin doesn't look anything special yet when I view them stateside on the web they always appear much nicer.

Maybe its a US thing, and the US lampos, over riders and whitewalls change the appearance as a whole !

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Ben in Ireland.
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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2005, 15:07:44 »
Yes, it is a very popular color in the States. UPS uses it.
On a car, it reminds me of a 1976 Ford sedan. Not at all suitable for a genuine sports car.

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2005, 15:14:09 »
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Originally posted by Joe

 Not at all suitable for a genuine sports car.




Perhaps not now, but in those days, and well into the 70's, brown was commonly available on sports cars from many countries, including M.G., Triumph, Jaguar, Mercedes, Porsche, Fiat, Maxda, Datsun (Nissan), and others.  The fashion for colors is cyclical.  Brown is at the low point of the cycle for production vehicles at the moment.

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2005, 07:57:49 »
Hi Guys,

Oh dear, are we really fated to embrace Avocado Green, Pumpkin Orange, Harvest Gold, and **** Brown again?  I hope we have buried the 60s/70s colour schemes forever!

Having said that, some of the new T-Bird minty pastels are going to look reeeeeeeeealy dated soon.

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2005, 16:56:37 »
Welll...  you know what they say:  "What goes around, comes around!"  We could even see some of the early 70's screaming purples again someday....

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2005, 13:57:18 »
Mike,

Its sad to mention that there was PURPLE 107 at the RM auction in Boca this year. Even sadder was that it had a Chevy big block with "427 SL" painted on the deck lid. It didnt sell.

-Kevin

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2005, 23:07:47 »

I wonder if I'm the only one left who actually ordered a DB423 Tobacco Brown W113 new.  

Mike's right; manufacturers like Porsche, Jaguar, British Leyland and Mercedes-Benz even offered different shades of brown. In 1971, the only darker shade of passenger-car brown was from Rolls-Royce, and I think a lot of us were attracted to the richness of it, particularly the way it complemented the cognac and bamboo interiors.

The SL's were advertised as "the civilized sports car," and the fact is they were positioned as sporty grand tourers, not "serious", competitive sports cars.  I used to park mine next to an Air Force captain's white 113 at Laguna Seca -- and then we went out on the track to rally 911's and TR-6's.

The aesthetic of Mercedes cars in 1971 is important, too.  When you see a darker U.S. Pagoda with the color-matched hubcaps on 78-series whitewalls, that's the way they were almost always paired in Sindelfingen.  And they look balanced and correct.

So we can critique contemporary tastes, paint our SL's any color we prefer, and put on 70-series blackwalls if we want, but let's be careful not to assume these cars are today anything more or less than when they were designed and built.  Because that context is a big part what makes them interesting.


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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2005, 02:04:55 »
I had a brown MGB from the 1970's "Russet Brown" it was called, a lot of BL cars came out in that colour, some looked ok some looked like, well you know what I mean
Even BMW had a variation on the theme at one point....
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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2005, 05:05:04 »
I bought a Java Brown Volvo XC 70 4 years ago, with a beige leather interior. Everyone who sees the car comments on how good that particular colour combination suits it. I know that in my neigbourhood I was the first with that colour. In my city there are now around 5 XC 70's in that colour combination.

Clearly not enough though: Volvo pulled the colour a year later.

Have a look at this photo: Volvo helping SL. A better picture of the colour of the Volvo is here.

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2005, 15:38:29 »
Quote
Originally posted by Joe

"Yes, it is a very popular color in the States. UPS uses it."


Joe, comparing the colo(u)r of UPS faceless trucks and classic mercs I have difficulty with.

The colo(u)r of my merc is police white E50. It sounds dreadful but pagodas in white IMHO look great.

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2005, 18:47:32 »
quote:
Originally posted by Malc

I had a brown MGB from the 1970's "Russet Brown" it was called, a lot of BL cars came out in that colour, some looked ok some looked like, well you know what I mean
Even BMW had a variation on the theme at one point....
Malc




Yes, Malc, I know what you mean:  When the TR-7 came out on this side of the pond we M.G. owners derided it as the "flying doorstop," except for the brown ones, which were known as the "flying t*rd!"  Happily, time has modified our view of those Triumphs...

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Re: Color of the month
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2005, 02:47:10 »
quote:


Happily, time has modified our view of those Triumphs...




Agree, especially the TR8 I had a ride in a genuine RHD one the other day - awesome, put an MGB to shame
Interestingly TR8 prices are going through the roof here and even TR7, as long as it has a soft top.
Lots of mods out there, but a 7 with a Dolomite Sprint 16 valve head is amazing too

Oh by the way it was a very nice shade of metalic blue.....

Malc  :)
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