Author Topic: Sold -- Worth continuing to save: '67 230SL auto, red over tan  (Read 3487 times)

Greg R.

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113,266 miles (13,266 miles shown)
250SL motor

Asking $29,900.  Offers are welcome.  The car is garaged at my home in Washington, DC.

I was smitten at first sight in 2019 when an acquaintance suggested I buy her father’s non-running 230SL.  It had sat for a “few years” in their garage.  Her father was a car guy but neither her nor her husband were, so it wasn’t being driven.  Correction: couldn’t be driven by the time I saw it.  My brain ignored the rust in the undercarriage pans near the sills, my ego convinced me I could bring this car back to life and make it a solid driver, and fell I in love.

I joined the Pagoda SL Club, poured over every technical article – I can almost quote the engine linkage tour by heart – and soaked up everything.  I worked through all of the major systems to ensure it would be a reliable driver.  All. Of. Them.  (See below.)  I eventually got it to the point where it moved under its own power.  I have driven the car around a block, in a parking lot nearby, and on and off a flatbed tow truck.  One of my last tasks was replacing the shifter linkage bushings and, while I was at it, what the heck, I may as well adjust the linkage as well.  Under the car, confirming it was in neutral while the motor was running, I bumped the shift lever arm on the trans and knocked it into gear without a foot on the brake pedal.  I quickly tried to move it back and knocked it into reverse.  Something broke and now it doesn’t shift.  The transmission needs attention.  (Also, I suspect the trans vacuum diaphragm is leaking.  About 30 seconds after a cold start it starts to smoke.)

After 4.5 years, having driven it about one quarter of a mile, and now it won’t move, I surrender.  I’m not enjoying this car.  It is a painful and humbling admission, but it is time to sell.

Parting thought and plea – This is the first Pagoda I’ve tried to sell and, given the condition, I have not been able to find comparable sold vehicles to help guide my asking price.  I welcome all feedback, advice and council from Pagoda SL Group community about how best to sell this car.  I plan on listing it with Hemmings.com in about a week.










Motor:
-   250SL motor (installed in early 1970s per prior owner)
-   Valve adjustment (with new valve cover gasket), re-torqued head bolts
-   Rocker arm ball studs’ wear checked (all good)
-   Good compression (cylinders 1 through 6 in psi = 160, 162, 165, 155, 155, 162)
-   New motor mounts
Fuel & Ignition Systems:
-   New fuel injectors
-   Pump is good, generates 14psi and flows 2.0 L in 30 sec
-   New plugs & coil
-   New thermo time switch
-   Installed NOS warm running device (wax-filled cylinder)
-   Adjusted timing, throttle linkages, and replaced main transverse shaft’s brass bushings
-   New gas cap gasket
Lighting:
-   Everything works
Intake:
-   New filter
-   New intake boot
-   New vacuum line from intake to distributor
-   Painted air filter housing
Transmission:
-   New transmission mount
-   Fluid and filter change
-   New shifter bushings
Drivetrain:
-   New differential mount
-   Removed 40+ years of black grime (an unpleasant task while installed)
Suspension & Wheels:
-   Shocks look good, pass bounce test (probably replaced by prior owner)
-   Cleaned steel wheels & painted gloss black, polished rims
-   Polished hubcaps (need to be repainted)
Charging & Electrical system:
-   New alternator and voltage regulator
-   Cleaned all engine bay grounds
-   New fuses, new fuse box cover gasket
-   Cleaned, repaired and painted battery tray
Cooling system:
-   Re-cored radiator, painted fan shroud
-   New water pump
-   New fan clutch, cleaned fan
-   All new hoses and clamps
-   New expansion tank pressure cap
-   New thermostat
-   New temperature gage in dash (Celsius)
Brakes:
-   Rebuilt rear brakes with new cylinders, internals, and shoes
-   New rear soft lines, and rear hard lines
-   Rebuilt front calipers (pads and discs good)
Body:
-   Paint is faded, chipped where hood misaligned and/or opened too far
-   Replaced missing hood torsion bar, over travel strap, and all brackets with new
-   Hard top in good functional condition, needs paint polished
-   Soft top frame is like new, soft top is in tatters (likely not used in decades)
-   Toneau lid is in excellent condition
-   Evidence of mediocre collision damage repair in engine bay rear-left side of engine bay (occurred in 1970s per prior owner)
-   Body cut lines are even, passenger door needs alignment (sits proud/outboard)
-   Grill has a crack in the interior-left side
-   Missing one lower sill trim piece, three pieces not mounted and kept in trunk
-   All glass is in good shape
Interior:
-   Doors cards are good
-   Dash has sun damage, wood needs refinishing
-   MBTex seats have cracks, need reupholstering
-   Rear view mirror silvering has flaked off
-   All gages work, speedometer needle center disk fell off (see pics)
-   Non-period correct radio is an eyesore
-   Carpet is presentable
-   Heat & vents work, sliders are very stiff
-   Clock isn’t running
-   Turn signal indicator plastic end is cracked
-   Complete original tool kit (?) (See pics)
Undercarriage:
-   Rust in undercarriage pans near sills
-   Trunk and driver floor pans appear to have been replaced
Other work performed in my tenure:
-   New firewall grommets
-   New exhaust system rubber hangers
-   Rebuilt and remounted left horn
-   New transmission shift lever bushings
-   All new fluids and filters (motor, transmission, power steering, fuel, brake, coolant)
-   Replaced all belts
-   Replaced missing constant speed solenoid threaded disc with a new one

Issues (in rough order of importance to have a solid driver):
-   Mechanical –
o   Transmission needs attention to shift again and new vacuum diaphragm
o   Cold start system perfection has eluded me (possibly due to trans fluid ingestion via failed diaphragm)
o   Brake hard lines from engine bay to rear have light rust near rear axle
o   Tires (better safe than sorry)
o   Refurbish (clean & lube?) heat and vent sliders, cables and flaps
o   Differential leak
o   Replace brake and indicator bulbs with modern, extra bright LED (for safety)
-   Cosmetic –
o   Paint is faded
o   Missing one side sill trim piece
o   Seats need reupholstering
o   Hubcaps need repainting
o   Rust in undercarriage pans
o   Evidence of mediocre collision damage repair in engine bay rear-left side of engine bay (occurred in 1970s per prior owner)
« Last Edit: December 04, 2023, 19:10:07 by Greg R. »
Greg R.
Washington, DC
W113 1967 230SL (auto, 250SL motor)
E24 M635
E38 740i sport
S3 Spider Veloce
ex-E32 735i, ex-E24 635CSi turbo, ex-1965 Falcon Futura convertible (301W H.O. transplant)

Greg R.

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Re: Worth continuing to save: '67 230SL auto, red over tan
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2023, 11:27:40 »
Thanks for your interest!   I'll call you this afternoon.
Greg R.
Washington, DC
W113 1967 230SL (auto, 250SL motor)
E24 M635
E38 740i sport
S3 Spider Veloce
ex-E32 735i, ex-E24 635CSi turbo, ex-1965 Falcon Futura convertible (301W H.O. transplant)

Peter van Es

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Re: Worth continuing to save: '67 230SL auto, red over tan
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2023, 07:39:34 »
Seller beware. We have deleted the account of sd258123.
1970 280SL. System Admin of the site. Please do not mail or PM me questions on Pagoda's... I'm not likely to know the answer.  Please post on the forum instead!

Greg R.

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Re: Worth continuing to save: '67 230SL auto, red over tan
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2023, 18:52:45 »
Seller beware. We have deleted the account of sd258123.

Warning received.  I shall proceed with caution if at all.
Greg R.
Washington, DC
W113 1967 230SL (auto, 250SL motor)
E24 M635
E38 740i sport
S3 Spider Veloce
ex-E32 735i, ex-E24 635CSi turbo, ex-1965 Falcon Futura convertible (301W H.O. transplant)

Garry

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Re: Worth continuing to save: '67 230SL auto, red over tan
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2023, 01:57:02 »
Greg,


A second attempt by the same guy but now calling himself BenzGuy410 was made but the post and acct deleted.

Garry Marks
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MAH77

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Re: Worth continuing to save: '67 230SL auto, red over tan
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2023, 12:32:15 »
Hi, I sent you a PM and email, I'm local if you're still selling your SL.

Thanks,
Milan

Greg R.

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Re: Worth continuing to save: '67 230SL auto, red over tan
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2023, 14:37:55 »
Hi Milan.

Thanks for taking a look.  I've replied to your email.
Greg R.
Washington, DC
W113 1967 230SL (auto, 250SL motor)
E24 M635
E38 740i sport
S3 Spider Veloce
ex-E32 735i, ex-E24 635CSi turbo, ex-1965 Falcon Futura convertible (301W H.O. transplant)

Greg R.

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Re: Sold -- Worth continuing to save: '67 230SL auto, red over tan
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2023, 18:58:51 »
Sold to California.  Best of luck, little car.
Greg R.
Washington, DC
W113 1967 230SL (auto, 250SL motor)
E24 M635
E38 740i sport
S3 Spider Veloce
ex-E32 735i, ex-E24 635CSi turbo, ex-1965 Falcon Futura convertible (301W H.O. transplant)