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Changing from Manual to Automatic Transmission question
« on: October 17, 2023, 03:35:55 »
I have finished metal work on my aforementioned "basket Case" 1966 230sl. Since this project car did not come with a power train, I located a 2.8L long block and the appropriate 4-speed automatic transmission. My question is this: Is there a different cutout/position for the shifter coming through the transmission tunnel manual v. auto? See attached photo. My 1966 was originally a 2.3L with a manual transmission. I probably should have asked this question before but I'm ready to remove the body from the Rotisserie and any mods would be easier while it's still on it.
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Re: Changing from Manual to Automatic Transmission question
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2023, 04:16:45 »
Hello Kirk, I believe the openings are the same for standard or automatic.
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Re: Changing from Manual to Automatic Transmission question
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2023, 00:02:21 »
Do you know if the same can be said for the 2 piece drive line?

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Re: Changing from Manual to Automatic Transmission question
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2023, 00:27:41 »
There's a lot of discussion about transmission conversions.  I searched once and found a few links in a few seconds.  We've been on-line for 20 years and most things have been discussed.  I'm sure there are many, many more threads about it that can be found with various search terms.

https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=37156
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=13826
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=35694
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=17355
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=4399

And, from what I recall reading over the years, you would need a different length driveshaft.  And, I believe on a 230SL there's some deal with the flywheel??
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Re: Changing from Manual to Automatic Transmission question
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2023, 03:55:20 »
The front half of the driveshaft are different lengths depending on the different transmission types. Rodd is correct about the flywheel. With 230Sls all the crankshaft assembly (front counter weight, crankshaft and flywheel are balanced as one assembly and the separate parts are counter-balanced. Most likely you will have a severe vibration and imbalance if you just swap flywheels without dealing with the counter-balance situation.
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1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: Changing from Manual to Automatic Transmission question
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2023, 05:12:49 »
The front half of the driveshaft are different lengths depending on the different transmission types. Rodd is correct about the flywheel. With 230Sls all the crankshaft assembly (front counter weight, crankshaft and flywheel are balanced as one assembly and the separate parts are counter-balanced. Most likely you will have a severe vibration and imbalance if you just swap flywheels without dealing with the counter-balance situation.

I agree but he's using a 2.8 which won't have that problem.
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