First Aid Kit

[MikeSimon]

In Germany it became mandatory to carry a first aid kit in your car, at one time in the 70s. I believe after production of the W113 ended. I saw a "holder" for a first aid box supposedly for a W113 offered for sale. My car never had one and I do not see it as an option for a W113. Does anybody know anything about this?

[rwmastel]

Maybe that was a dealership item?  For sale for any model at the time?

There are a few discussion on our very own forum.
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=20821.0

[Pawel66]

In Germany it became mandatory to carry a first aid kit in your car, at one time in the 70s. I believe after production of the W113 ended. I saw a "holder" for a first aid box supposedly for a W113 offered for sale. My car never had one and I do not see it as an option for a W113. Does anybody know anything about this?

Mike, we know a picture from W113 sales brochure showing this bracket and box. It was in Hans’ post. I will dig for it when I have a minute.

[John Betsch - "SADIE"]

My '65 230SL is a Germany delivered car.

When I acquired "Sadie" it came both with the yellow-cased "Warning Triangle" required by Germany TUV and the "Tack on Blue" fitted First Aid Kit (Verbandskasten).  Both were mounted in the boot using a heavy magnet on the forward boot wall, connected to nylon strapping.

The Winter 2005 Pagoda World notes in an article by Michael C. Egan (230/250/280 SL Optional Equipment) "The First Aid Kit was a tack on blue container usually mounted on the inner side wall behind the passenger seat."

Picture of mine attached.  Incidentally, mine is all written in German and luckily has never been used, completely intact


jb

[MikeSimon]

I am familiar with the First Aid Kit box. I have one also. These were usually NOT delivered by the factory, but had to be purchased by the owner, together with the 'warning triangle", usually in a yellow plastic case. I also have an original 280SL sales brochure which does not have a picture of a first aid kit box holer nor does it mention one in the list of available accessories.

[Davek1]

I have been on the search for a green plastic Hartmann first aid kit for a while. The holder as far as I am aware is the same in the 107 and 113. I have read conflicting info on which first aid box was correct for what year.

[Pawel66]

Here is how the first aid box and its pocket/cover topic looks like from parts list perspective:

113042 - no mention

113043 - it is there for W113 under Panelling

We have two parts numbers for pocket

A 111 680 55 58, SA 55739 where you could pick leather on leather imitation trim and
A 113 680 00 58, SA 55739 - with pocket and imitation leather trim (so we have something for W113)

Then for the first aid box

A 000 865 00 50 replaced by A 000 865 08 50, active part numbers, under SA code only (55739) and it may come, depending on SA number extension from "With pocket less trim" through all kinds of trim, leather and leather imitation and two kinds of pockets.

It is further replaced by A 000 860 02 50, same SA but with option added to possible configurations "with bracket less trim". It is still available today, no idea what you get.

113044

as in 043 we have two parts numbers

A 111 680 55 58, SA 55739 where you could pick leather on leather imitation trim and
A 113 680 00 58, SA 55739 - with pocket and imitation leather trim (so we have something for W113)

and then further for the pocket, active, NLA

A 115 865 02 55, cover, SA 55739 with a lot more options, including panels with stereo, RHD, LHD, trunk, A/C, etc. - apparently for more car models. There are two lists of SA code extensions.

For the first aid box we have A 000 865 00 50 replaced by A 000 865 08 50 replaced by soft sided A 000 860 02 50 each with two sets of SA 55739 extensions.

I would conclude:
1. There was a set dedicated to W113 in 113 043 times.
2. Then it was merged with sets for many other cars. If we went into r107 I am sure we would find these parts. Multiple types of first aid boxes, multiple brackets.
3. Very difficult to say what type of box might have been used late for 280SL.

As for the pictures: below are links to threads with them. One is provided by Hans and one is a link to thread where 49er is referring to special equipment catalogue from ca 1966. I also agree with Kevinc's view there that black/green box may be fine for early 70ies.

https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=15568.msg106882#msg106882

 https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=14898.msg101955#msg101955

[BobH]

These are option code 222 and later 631, for all models including Pagoda's

https://oudemercedesbrochures.nl/Accessoires_1063engels.html

https://oudemercedesbrochures.nl/Accessoires_ca66NL.html

[Pawel66]

These are option code 222 and later 631, for all models including Pagoda's

https://oudemercedesbrochures.nl/Accessoires_1063engels.html

https://oudemercedesbrochures.nl/Accessoires_ca66NL.html

Fantastic materials!!! Thank you!

[BobH]

Hello Pawel, don't tell anyone, shouldn't be in this post, but brochures for your 190SL as well

https://oudemercedesbrochures.nl/190SL_300SL.html

[Pawel66]

What brochures? 

[John Betsch - "SADIE"]

Though it doesn't address the original post, thought some would enjoy seeing what the contents of a (my) tack on blue kit look like.

jb

[mmizesko]

I've seen pictures of the holders wrapped in mbtex in the Pagoda but not often,  I saw one mounted on the passenger foot panel on the right wall at one point.  The correct first aid kits for the Pagodas should be the Hartmann Green or Blue Kraftwagen Verbandkasten in plastic,  I think the older metal ones might be correct for the early 230's but I don't really know.  I do know that the Black kit with the Green crosses are correct for the post 1971 Benzes and common in the R107's and sedans.  Pics below.  I have a couple of each.

Mike Mizesko

[rwmastel]

I've seen pictures of the holders wrapped in mbtex in the Pagoda but not often,  I saw one mounted on the passenger foot panel on the right wall at one point.

Yes, in the second post of the thread I linked above.  Did nobody read through that?

[John Betsch - "SADIE"]

Circling back to Mike Simon's original post:

 '"In Germany it became mandatory to carry a first aid kit in your car, at one time in the 70s. I believe after production of the W113 ended. I saw a "holder" for a first aid box supposedly for a W113 offered for sale. My car never had one and I do not see it as an option for a W113. Does anybody know anything about this?"

Can those who own '70's Pagodas (assumedly only Germany cars) post some pix of their "proper" holder" If his statement about only being mandatory in the "70's, (in Germany.) is correct
If so, I would guess no 230 nor 250 (Germany car) would have come or had a first aid kit, nor bracket. 

yes?

[RichardPercival]

My car is a September '66 or there abouts 230 SL ordered new in Germany and has option 222 (First Aid Kit) on the data card.
Attached is a picture of the holder (my car was optioned with Bronze brown leather from the factory) which does not appear to have been messed with.
Now time for me to find a First Aid kit to go inside it!

[WRe]

More pics.

[zoegrlh]

Mike is correct, first aid kits were mandatory  by the TUV in 70s in Germany, so if you were a resident of Germany your car would have to have the kit and safety triangle. Cars made for German market might have these items with them when you purchased the car after mid 70s.  MB had these items available. I owned a W107 while I lived in Germany during the 80s and those items were in my SL. When I purchased my German spec Pagoda, these items were included, however the triangle was from a German aftermarket supplier. Pagodas made for US market of course did not have these items because DOT did not require them. A side not the TUV now requires an orange vest to be in your car, and you are to wear it when outside car when car is disabled.

[John Betsch - "SADIE"]

the recent replies to First Aid Kit has prompted my inquiry:  Has anyone ever seen the holder for the first aid offered anyplace? Particularly interested in one that would hold the tack on blue kit

jb

[zoegrlh]

John, my holder is a MB part. The number is 115 865 025 5.  It’s possibly you might be able to source from a MB dealer ordering it, or try MB Classic Center. Kits should be the same size, so holder would work.

[Jonny B]

You can also try eBay. I just did a quick search on "Mercedes vintage first aid kit" (without the quotes) and got a bunch of hits for the kit itself, with one hit for the holder for a 107 body. I don't know if that is the same piece or not. These were behind the seats in the 107. You would need to check the part numbers.

Set up a saved search with alerts and a dollop of patience and you might find what you are looking for.

[Pawel66]

The A115 865 0255 may not be available from MB any more (it is no more available here), but there are plenty of them on ebay and they are not expensive as they were used for many cars for many years.

What is hard to spot is the correct box...

[zoegrlh]

I agree with Pawel, the kit tray for the W107 is the tray that would have been available for the Pagodas back then thru MB shops.

[John Betsch - "SADIE"]

 
fyi
From:171-classicparts@mbusa.com
To:sandeeshoes@verizon.net
Thu, Aug 22 at 12:33 PM

THAT IS CORRECT 115 865 02 55 NO LONGER AVAILABLE


Also thank you Jonny B for the recommendation, not successful so far, the search continues

 

 

 

[BobH]

Hello, you could ask this seller what the part number is, might be lucky

https://www.fourbyfourclub.com/W460BodyParts/W460FirstAidKitBracket.htm