Author Topic: Country Codes (Read 3187 times)

JLO · « **on:** January 17, 2024, 18:19:50 »

Hello
Someone can explain Country Code 0 ?

Thanks

Jean-Luc

rwmastel · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2024, 19:02:14 »

Hi Jean-Luc,

You're a full member. Is it not in the Tech Manual? https://www.sl113.org/wiki/DataCard/Start

BobH · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2024, 19:10:20 »

Hello, this question has been asked several times, with no answer being given

Can you tell us exactly where this "0" is shown, is it on your data card, perhaps post a picture so we can get to the bottom of it

WRe · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2024, 20:20:25 »

Hi,
The question of the country code "0" was also discussed several times in the German pagoda forum Pagodentreff, also with the participation of MB. Unfortunately, no answer was found here either.
...WRe

rwmastel · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2024, 21:41:34 »

Jean-Luc,

Sorry, I didn't look at the Tech Manual myself. I assumed it was complete and would answer your question! Also, it seems you tried some time ago to get an answer from us without luck.
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=32586

Form what BobH and WRe say, this appears to be a difficult problem to solve. Please tell us more about your car. Do you know its history? Do you have a data card for it? Is this country code on the ID plate on the inner fender? Can you share any pictures with us?

Pawel66 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2024, 06:59:58 »

I remotely recall discussions about those being Daimler HQ ordered demo cars or exhibition cars - was it not about cars with “0” country code or I remember it wrong?

As we say here: I can hear the bell, just do not know in which church…

JLO · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2024, 18:07:57 »

https://www.dropbox.com/t/F6V6VfJ0jeK7K6us

BobH · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2024, 18:15:57 »

There it is in black and white, well, grey and grey

Hopefully someone, somewhere may be able to shed some light on it

JLO · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2024, 18:24:35 »

https://www.dropbox.com/t/F6V6VfJ0jeK7K6us

You will find two pics : the data card of my car and the identification plate

Thanks

JLO · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2024, 18:27:38 »

https://www.dropbox.com/t/TOaESKuIGIWVxLKZ
My Data card

rwmastel · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2024, 18:55:19 »

I'm getting errors downloading or previewing in those dropbox links. Is there a reason you don't want to attach an image in your post?

BobH · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2024, 19:28:27 »

Just to muddy the water slightly, the 1967 (actually November 66 build) car in our tech manual also has a "0" on the body and paint plate, but the data card code 712 is delivery to the US

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-230sl-22/

rwmastel · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2024, 20:58:45 »

Bob,

You say "the 1967 car in our tech manual" and then post a link to BAT. Are you saying pics from this auction are in the Tech Manual?

Looking at the auction pics, the data plate does have that 0 country code. Also, it has no option codes listed! I find that interesting. It has a power steering reservoir, so it should have some option code listed.

MikeSimon · « **Reply #13 on:** January 18, 2024, 21:01:53 »

Could it be, that the "0" identifies a special ex-factory delivery, e.g: Military, and the car has the specs for the destination country?

BobH · « **Reply #14 on:** January 18, 2024, 21:34:23 »

Quote from: rwmastel on January 18, 2024, 20:58:45

Bob,

You say "the 1967 car in our tech manual" and then post a link to BAT. Are you saying pics from this auction are in the Tech Manual?

Looking at the auction pics, the data plate does have that 0 country code. Also, it has no option codes listed! I find that interesting. It has a power steering reservoir, so it should have some option code listed.

Yes, some of the pictures are in the tech manual as a reference for originality

https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Originality/1967230SL

Pawel66 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2024, 22:05:37 »

JLO, please consider not publishing pictures containing your steering lock key code, especially if you have this key with this code (Lenkungschloss).

It has also special wish option 740, which we, I think, do not know what is neither (I do not think it is the black soft top).

I stick to my supposition that it is Daimler HQ special order for some event, exposition or internal use.

MikeSimon · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2024, 16:01:45 »

Quote from: Pawel66 on January 18, 2024, 22:05:37

It has also special wish option 740, which we, I think, do not know what is neither (I do not think it is the black soft top).

Pawel, that field is not "special wish", it is "rarely/seldom ordered" and it usually contains the soft-top color code. My car also has code "249" for heated rear window in that field

Pawel66 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2024, 16:38:32 »

Yes, sorry, wrong expression. Thank you for pointing.

Yes, it was often about soft top color, but not always.

On my datacard I have wenig gewunscht 249 and 836, where

249: from 01.02.1966 to 30.06.1972 ” REAR WINDOW, ELECTRICALLY HEATED (HEAT-INSULATING GLASS)
836: from 01.08.1962 to 30.09.1970 FIRE EXTINGUISHER

For 740 we have: from 01.08.1972 TOILE DE CAPOTE 9001 BLACK

We do not have its interpretation for the 60ies, that is why I think it may not be about black soft top.

JLO · « **Reply #18 on:** January 22, 2024, 14:35:29 »

Hi all
I was finally able to solve the riddle of code 0 (country code):
The country code 0 was used for vehicles whose destination was not yet determined at the time of production. These vehicles were destined for internal stock (factory warehouse): "ORDER FOR STOCK". As far as my pagoda is concerned, it is the 51st 280 SL that rolled off the assembly line on December 29, 1967, put into internal stock and assigned to an engineer from Mercedes-Benz Stuttgart (Cannstatt), on June 10, 1968.
I hope that these elements will help us to get to know the pagoda better.

Pawel66 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2024, 14:53:40 »

Thank you for sharing that information!

I think I was fairly close...

Any idea about code 740?

May we ask, if you can share, where was this information obtained? perhaps there is a source somewhere we can explore in the future?

MikeSimon · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2024, 17:47:44 »

Pawel: Why are you so opposed to "740" standing for the soft-top color? It is listed like this in the TM in the color code section. The field "Wenig Gewünscht" can have up to 4 entries. Mine has two. 746 and 249.

JLO · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2024, 17:59:28 »

I have this information from the manager of the Mercedes Benz SL Club Pagoda, it is Johannes Lietz Main strasse 12, 45219 Essen. johannes.lietz@sl-club-pagode.de
For my part, I remain convinced that the code 740 is the black 9001 color of the soft top.
Yours sincerely.

Pawel66 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2024, 07:17:52 »

Thank you for sharing this information. Sounds like a very reliable source.

I am not opposed the 740 being a black soft top color. I thought it might be the case. We just did not have it documented, I think. We do not have a document describing clearly this option code. I think it is quite likely that it is about black soft top color.

MikeSimon · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2024, 15:20:18 »

In the Tech Manual, in the Option Code section and Color Codes, it says 740 is Black Soft Top

Pawel66 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2024, 17:49:46 »

I see it under 720 there....

Maybe I am too old for this...

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Author Topic: Country Codes (Read 3187 times)