Author Topic: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.  (Read 3358 times)

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IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« on: January 30, 2024, 02:50:43 »
So...I was cleaning up the Soft Top Trunk and took off the release valve.  That was a week ago.  Today I when to install the Carpet to the back wall and at the Jump(Kinder) Seat I re-upholstered today.  I F@cking closed the the Soft Top trunk without the Lever on!   I spent a hour trying to crank over the bolt under the middle lever like in the tech manual and it would never release the Drives side.  Now something separated and it moves but does not release either.   I tried to release the hook like the other post with the Wood Ball handle but did not have any tools that right size.  Tried to fish it out with a hanger! FAIL!  wasted 2 hours and then gave up. 

Any ideas how to release that hook other than those options?  I guess tomorrow I will try and build a tool like the Wood Ball tool if there is no other way. 

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Re: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2024, 07:22:12 »
Take a look at the method described Aart S.  in Pagoda Notes 17 #4:
https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Restricted/PagodaNotes?action=download&upname=PNv17i4.pdf
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Re: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2024, 18:11:55 »
Thanks for that link.  Fresh eyes this morning and no frustration and getting to see those parts in that article helped.  Found a thin piece of metal I was able to slide down in and pop it open!
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Re: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2024, 17:46:26 »
It was difficult for me to follow Aart’s method of releasing a stuck soft top storage compartment cover until I inspected the compartment itself. Of course if your compartment’s cover won’t open, you will not be able to inspect it. I intend for my description below to eliminate the necessity of your inspecting the compartment. Aart is using a putty knife to push down a mechanism that retracts a pin that locks down the cover of the storage compartment on each side. The compartment is U-shaped, and the locking pins are located inside the compartment at the front edge of each end of the “U.” The putty knife (or other implement) must, as Aart advises, be no more than 2 cm “thick.” At first I thought “cm” was a typo and should have been “mm,” and that the limitation in size was literally the thickness of the implement, because the implement must fit in the space between the front edges of the soft top storage compartment cover on each side of the car and the chrome piece that is opposite each of those front edges when the cover is closed. And yes, the implement must be thin enough to fit through that space, which is a few millimeters wide, to reach down into the storage compartment. But Aart’s 2 cm (centimeters) does not refer to that space at all. Rather, it refers to what I would call the width (rather than “thickness”) of the putty knife blade. The reason for the 2 cm limitation is that the mechanism that retracts the locking pin is itself nestled inside a topless metal “box” that is about 2 cm wide and is, of course, inside the compartment. If your putty knife or other implement exceeds the width of the topless box, it cannot get inside the box to contact the mechanism that retracts the locking pin. The reason Aart advises that the blade must tilt a bit (with handle tilting slightly toward the front of the car) is that if it goes straight down into the metal “box” it might not contact the mechanism. Pushing the mechanism down causes the pin to retract and the compartment cover to be released. Of course both pins—the one on the right side of the car and the one on the left side—must be released for the cover to open. The Technical Manual’s method of unlocking a stuck soft top storage compartment uses the hole that is in the middle of the front end of the boot (trunk). Within the soft top storage compartment and above that hole is a nut that connects together two sections of the cable that, when all is working properly, operates the pins that release the compartment cover. Moving that nut toward the driver side of the car will release the cover. That’s the good news. The bad news is that it takes quite a bit of strength to move it, perhaps because it moves both pins, left and right, at the same time. One more tip. I mentioned above that when the soft top compartment is closed, its two front ends (the tops of the “U”) line up opposite a chrome piece. That piece has a triangular shape, and an indented line runs the length of that chrome piece. The putty knife is inserted opposite the end of that line. When the blade is properly positioned, the chrome line will be almost exactly at the center of the blade. Stated differently, if the chrome line were extended onto the compartment cover, it would dissect the topless metal box in which sits the mechanism that releases the pins. Please forgive the length of this post, but I tried to write it in a way I would have understood it without having the ability to look into the storage compartment. Regards to all.
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Re: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2025, 01:56:04 »
I have more info on using a putty knife to release a stuck or inoperative cover of the soft top storage compartment. A 3/4 inch wide, stiff putty knife did not work because its stiffness prevented it from contacting the releasing mechanism that is in the “box” described in my prior post. Bending the putty knife’s handle toward the front of the car did not create a sufficient angle for the putty knife blade to reach the releasing mechanism. Next, I tried a 3/4 inch wide, flexible putty knife. Same result as the stiff putty knife. I then bent the putty knife blade about one inch from the end of the blade to about a 30 degree angle from the remainder of the blade. I then inserted the blade as described in my prior post, with the bent end pointing toward the rear of the car. Eureka!! Success. The bend enabled the putty knife’s blade to contact the releasing mechanism within the “box” that is inside the soft top storage compartment. It’s helpful to practice a few times until you get the knack of this procedure.
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Re: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2025, 13:52:33 »
This procedure should be placed in the Tech Manual.
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Re: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2025, 20:27:20 »
Awesome description!
Thanks Big Lou.
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Re: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2025, 21:17:34 »
How about this?
There are links to movies included that demonstrate the operation
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Re: IDIOT! Soft Top Boot Release Lever.
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2025, 13:47:43 »
Those links plus the “how-to” should be in tech manual.
Robert Hyatt
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