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Khurram Darugar

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Rare wheels
« on: December 09, 2005, 08:44:14 »
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Ben

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2005, 09:28:50 »
Nice wheels !

I dont beleive they are MB/Fuchs wheels though ! Possibly an aftermarket item made by ATS or similar !

Someone remarked here previously that the "factory" wheels have an insert where the holes are and thats how you know !

Still they'd look nice on a Pagoda and with a modern lower profile tyre the handling would certainly improve !

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Ben in Ireland.
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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2005, 11:29:57 »
Yes,
These 15" are rare and the original Mercedes did have the steel inserts, I believe Ronal made the originals. I had two sets over the years. One set had the standard factory asto-silver with clear finish. The other set is still on my 300SE sedan and has the astro-silver centers with polished aluminum outer rims with clear coat.

both sets were the original bundt stlye.

Joe Alexander
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1969 Dark Olive 280SL
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norton

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2005, 12:31:08 »
Wish I had seen this earlier, I went to bid on the wheels and there allready gooooooooooooone. :(

Mike Halleck
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68 250SL (parts car)
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Cees Klumper

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2005, 15:36:17 »
They look aftermarket (seller described brand as "Centra") which you can tell also by the sharp edge to the main bend 'inwards' from the outside (I am probably not making myself clear). Anyway, the original wheels are more rounded there which I think looks a lot better.

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2005, 18:46:10 »
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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2005, 00:35:49 »
And with that link to the real deal you can see what I was talking about!

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
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Khurram Darugar

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2005, 04:19:34 »
Mike,
       I have seen these wheels on german ebay a couple of times going for around 500 Euros.  If you think about it even a 1000 Euros is not a lot of money considering what nice wheels cost nowadays, let alone rare ones.

One thing to note is that these wheels are wider too, by an inch.  I believe that 205's are the minimum you can put on them.  And will give a very flat straight side wall.
Kay


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hauser

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2005, 11:52:47 »
The 15" Fuchs sold for $2,550.00 plus shipping.  The seller stated that these wheels are available through the classic center.  I thought they were out of production?



1969 280sl 5 spd
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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2005, 13:24:32 »
quote:
Originally posted by hauser

The 15" Fuchs sold for $2,550.00 plus shipping. ..

Not bad for 4 wheels but how much do you think a set will cost for a new $1.25 million Bugatti? Now that's rare .. or maybe not? 1000 hp and 248 mph (or 400 km/h) [:0]

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-et-bugatti10dec10,1,7826679.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2005, 04:39:21 »
quote:
The 15" Fuchs sold for $2,550.00 plus shipping. The seller stated that these wheels are available through the classic center. I thought they were out of production?



I believe they are being manufactured again, I read that in the Daimler Chrylser "Classic" magazine last quarter ! Its a limited run and they were expensive but possibly the same price as these eBay ones !

They look great but as Kay warns they may look odd with a wider rim but a flat tyrewall !

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Ben in Ireland.
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RBurg

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2005, 20:37:52 »
They only were optional on 280's from 1968 to 71.

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Ben

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2005, 03:09:27 »
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They only were optional on 280's from 1968 to 71.


Ron, only in 14", these are rare 15" versions !

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2005, 17:32:57 »
quote:
Originally posted by zanone

These are the real deal 15"s. $2300!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8019123911

Hi zanone,
are these these the real deal too?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-wheels-280SL-230SL-250-SL-280-SL-230-SL-W113_W0QQitemZ4598626741QQcategoryZ34209QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2005, 18:05:45 »
Alfred - these look like the aftermarket, non-original kind (sharp edge) and could be 14 inch to boot. Michelin Rainforce tires have been reported as good for our cars, however note the 5 or so years of 'shelf-life' for tires.
Good luck on the auction Zanone!

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2005, 11:31:13 »
Damn, those are some gorgeous wheels.
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hauser

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2005, 13:27:05 »
I called the Classic Center and this is what I found out.  The 15" Fuchs wheels were introduced a year ago last Novenber.  All stock on these wheels is depleted.  At this time there is no talk of continued production. :(

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RBurg

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2005, 17:00:35 »
Dear Hauser:

What year were  the 15" Fuchs wheels first introduced?  
1968 or later?  The Bundt, I believe were 1968.
Have a Merry Christmas :)

Ron
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hauser

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2005, 00:18:15 »
Ron, I'm not really sure when the 15" bundt wheels were introduced.  I have seen them on a Euro spec 280sl, Hatch has two 280sls fitted with them and Karl Middlehauve also has two sets fitted on his custom 600 coupe and and something else.  We also have a member in Turkey that has a set on his Pagoda.

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2005, 00:09:15 »
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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2006, 15:55:42 »
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Alfred
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Douglas

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2006, 18:45:57 »
quote:
Originally posted by dravenali

You dont see these everyday!


So maybe it's every other day.....

Douglas Kim
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Khurram Darugar

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2006, 10:02:53 »
quote:
Originally posted by Douglas

quote:
Originally posted by dravenali

You dont see these everyday!


So maybe it's every other day.....

Douglas Kim
New York


More like every other day a couple of months ago ...... and on german ebay.
Have'nt really seen them on US/UK ebay although they may still be there.  The set from 26 of dec posted below are for 14" variety.

Kay
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hauser

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2006, 13:39:46 »
I just picked up a new set of these a couple weeks ago from a German source.

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hauser

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Re: Rare wheels
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2006, 22:57:25 »
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