Author Topic: More on Data Cards - order (Read 16534 times)

n/a · « **on:** December 18, 2005, 12:56:28 »

I want to order a Data Card. I'm told you can even have it fax'd to you. The 800- number I am using to make the order is constantly busy....or disabled. Would someone please reply with an internet link or other option for a datacard request please ? I have searched the forum....no hits.
thx
Carl

Cees Klumper · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2005, 18:08:11 »

Search for Dillenberger - the person at the German classic center who so many of us have contacted to get our data card.

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

Cees Klumper · « **Reply #2 on:** December 18, 2005, 18:11:02 »

Here's info from that search:

DaimlerChrysler AG
HPC 096/ G 328
704546 Stuttgart
Deutschland

Phone ++49 (0) 7 11/ 17-5 41 38
Fax ++49 (0) 7 11/ 17-79 05 41 38
email till.dillenburger@daimlerchrysler.com

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

Chad · « **Reply #3 on:** December 18, 2005, 18:57:51 »

I called Mercedes Classic. They fax it to you or email it to you with the key codes NOT included. That was the info I wanted. If you fax a copy of the title you can get the key codes, too.

Do a search here, more than enough info.

1967 230SL (ƒ=m*acceleration)
1958 180D (ƒ=m*gravity)

saygold · « **Reply #4 on:** December 18, 2005, 22:11:56 »

I contacted classicpart@mbusa on a Thursday morning (west coast time). I had a response from Paul Heule (paul.heule@mbusa) within a few minutes, saying that the information was in Germany (I had a Euro car), but it would be sent as soon as possible. I had the information early the next morning, including a copy of the original data card. There was no charge. Outstanding service!

Ken
'66 230SL

rob walker · « **Reply #5 on:** January 09, 2006, 20:40:21 »

received my data card from MB Classic by email.
They have stated that all are now held on microfilm so the quality is not great.
They have penned in the numbers but I am having a real problem deciphering what these mean even reading through the previous links on this matter.
Can anyone assist?

On the top line after upolstery on the right of the form I have a 1 in the first box then a 5 in the next box(41) then a 6 in the next box(42) then blank in box(43)

Next line down in box (62) I have a 9 and in box (66) I have a 5

Going down from box (62) and (66) I have 5 numbers

07731
128
HF0024
KV035
TW096

Any idea what these refer to?

Thanks group.

Rob Walker

1968 280SL papyrus white/green leather
2004 230 SLK silver

rwmastel · « **Reply #6 on:** January 10, 2006, 09:26:39 »

quote:
Originally posted by rob walker

They have stated that all are now held on microfilm so the quality is not great.

That's what I was told in 2000, so nobody should hope to get a high quality reproduction.

The box numbers are the first part of the "option number", as we put it. So, a 6 in box 42 means you have option 426.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420

Naj ✝︎ · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2006, 13:43:42 »

Rob,

I think these are key numbers:

07731 Ignition
128 ??
HF0024 Tank??
KV035 Glove box/ Trunk
TW096 Door

naj

65 230SL
68 280SL

114015 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2006, 15:38:49 »

Rob,

Nothing easier than that.
Please go to
http://www.sl113.org/data/show_table.asp?table_name=usr_option_codes

Helps a lot!

40(1) - single seats. Everybody W113 has that (but not all sedans).

On the top line after upolstery on the right of the form I have a 1 in the first box then a 5 in the next box(41) then a 6 in the next box(42) then blank in box(43)

41(5) No soft top - only hard top
42(6) Power steering with automatic transmission - tunnel shift
43(0) Seat belts

Next line down in box (62) I have a 9 and in box (66) I have a 5

62(9) Air horns (? Never heard of that before. Well ...
66(5) Mode of Packing VE 0 (often with export cars ...)

Going down from box (62) and (66) I have 5 numbers

Arrgh, don't know for sure. Depends in which field the number is

07731 - Gear box or axle number - it depends
128 - it depends (looks like an interior code)
HF0024 - ignition key number
KV035 - trunk and gloves box key number (K= Kofferraum und Handschuhfach)
TW096 - Door and Gas cap key (Türen und Tank).

Other numbers you should find are chassis no (VIN) and engine number, numbers of front axle halves and differential number. Wipers (Bosch), battery (Bosch, Varta, Hoppecke, etc.)

Perhaps numbers for "Wenig gewünscht" (less demanded).

What about 49 (?)? No US-version? Do you have a Europa-version?

Best,

Any idea what these refer to?

Thanks group.

Achim
(Magdeburg, Germany)

DavidAPease · « **Reply #9 on:** January 10, 2006, 15:53:41 »

Greetings, Achim (and Rob),

I also have option 629, and (using many option lists) I have translated this option to "Combined tail lamps with orange back-up light (France); Fog lamp special wiring; Town horn for France (LHD)". In my case, these were all true: my original taillights have amber reverse lenses, my fog lights were wired specifically so that they went off when high beams were selected (a pain to find and fix), and I have non-standard horns. I suspect that Rob's car was originally French, hence no US version.

-David Pease
'66 French 230SL

Douglas · « **Reply #10 on:** January 10, 2006, 16:10:08 »

Aren't the fog lamps supposed to turn off when the hi-beams are engaged on all SLs?

I think "fog light wiring" means exactly what it says. Nothing more than the standard fog light wiring.

DavidAPease · « **Reply #11 on:** January 10, 2006, 16:52:59 »

Hi, Douglas!

According to the 230SL wiring diagram, the fog lights stay on with high or low beams. (Maybe this is different for US models, but that's not what the wiring diagram shows.) My wiring had a special fuse holder (near the windshield washer bottle), and a circuit connected to a nominally unused terminal of the ignition switch, just to make sure that the fog lights went off on with high beam. I took this wiring out, and rewired according to the diagram, and voila, fog lamps high and low!

This might also have changed with the 280SL, as I know the wiring is different. For example, your trunk light probably came on with the headlights off - mine doesn't; I'm acually toying with the idea of modifying my wiring in this area to match the 280SL (what sacrilege!)

-David Pease
'66 French 230SL

J. Huber · « **Reply #12 on:** January 10, 2006, 18:18:57 »

Hello. Mine are as David says -- fog lamps stay on with both hi and lo beams. I do not have any trunk lighting, however.

James
63 230SL

rob walker · « **Reply #13 on:** January 10, 2006, 18:37:51 »

Thanks guys understand how to read this now. Mine was actually a German car so non US.
Interesting that my car definately has th soft top so cannot understand the 415.
It has air horns and trunk lighting but no fog lights or amber back up lights.
Also has tinted windows which does not show here.Also my specialist feels the leather trim is original yet no mention of leather on the data sheet.
Question is how accurate were these sheets when the car was built?

Also does anyone have any ideas on the 128 code?

Rob Walker

1968 280SL papyrus white/green leather
2004 230 SLK silver

Douglas · « **Reply #14 on:** January 10, 2006, 18:40:43 »

David,

Thanks for clarifying. I think this feature changed over time as the fog lamps do not work on my '73 sedan (with factory Hella fog lamps) when the brights are on & I believe the same is true on my former Euro SL from 1970. Makes sense considering they seemed to step up these kinds of restraints each year.

Douglas · « **Reply #15 on:** January 10, 2006, 18:43:56 »

Rob,

Just because your car was delivered without a soft top does not mean it was not a Roadster. My former SL had that same option. The soft top well was there and the first owner just installed a soft top frame once he realized it was a mistake to order it without the soft top. This should not be confused with a Coupe, which is the configuration with no provision for a soft top. No "well" in which the soft top could retract.

On another subject, have you seen Germany confirmed as its initial country of origin in its paper trail (or on the plate in the engine bay)?

J. Huber · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2006, 20:53:58 »

The destination can be found right on the data card -- if any one wonders where their car first graced the highway.

James
63 230SL

rob walker · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2006, 03:07:50 »

Doug, what should I be looking for on the plate in the engine bay to deignate original origin?

Rob Walker

1968 280SL papyrus white/green leather
2004 230 SLK silver

Douglas · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2006, 07:09:10 »

Rob, the "2" on this data plate in the engine bay indicates it's a German model:

http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/bigdanh/2005317176_data%20plate.jpg

At some point, we had a thread about the various codes. As I recall, there was a general code for Euro delivery (as well as US, Africa, Asia, etc.) and a specific one ("2") for Germany. In adddition, as James points out, I think there's some kind of inidication on the data card, but I don't recall those specifics. There may even be a dealer code somewhere there too.

rob walker · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2006, 08:03:35 »

Hm! any idea where 5 relates to?

Rob Walker

1968 280SL papyrus white/green leather
2004 230 SLK silver

J. Huber · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2006, 09:21:50 »

First off, the early datacards differ slightly from later ones, so I can only speak for the earliest. And I only know a little bit of how this works....

On the datacard, there is a box that reads approximately "Auftrags-Nummer". There is an 8 digit number. The first digit indicates the year of the car (ie 3 = a 63). The next three digits are the codes for the country of origin. In my case, this is 553 -- which was Holland. Now here's where I am of no help whatsoever -- the final digits I believe give specifics as to dealers but not sure. And, here's more trouble -- the website that used to show the various country codes is not "alive" anymore. I will continue to search or maybe someone else will have the country codes? Hope this helps a little...

James
63 230SL

Douglas · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2006, 09:28:22 »

"5" is for Europe, except Germany.

See this thread:

http://sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=2712

DavidAPease · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2006, 11:49:26 »

James,

A little clarification on the 8-digit "Auftrags-Nr.": As you say, the first digit is the order year, the next three are the dealer number (so they indicate country, but there may be more than one dealer in the same country), and the last four are simply an order number for that dealer.

For example, my (1966 French) car has a "5" on the engine compartment plate (non-German European), and an Auftrags number of 55317928, meaning the car was ordered in 1965, by dealer 531 (France), and was order number 7928.

-David Pease
'66 French 230SL

rwmastel · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2006, 12:10:13 »

quote:
Originally posted by Douglas

Aren't the fog lamps supposed to turn off when the hi-beams are engaged on all SLs?

Mine stay on.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420

rob walker · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2006, 18:47:35 »

Thanks for all the assistance on this yes we have an original French car, with the order number being 85312711. Interesting as tracing back the original owner, she was supposed to be a German lady. Maybe she had it in the South of France as her holiday car!

Rob Walker

1968 280SL papyrus white/green leather
2004 230 SLK silver

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