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questions of novice Pagoda lover
« on: July 06, 2006, 02:30:51 »
Hello eveybody,

my name is Sergios and I live in Athens, Greece.
I dot not own a pagoda but I am looking for one in order to restore it.
Can anybody make any suggestions as to what car (230, 280), manual or auto, overdrive if any, i should be looking for?

Also, are there any musts that i should look into before buying such a car?

If dashboard parts and original wheel is mising, can they be found??

Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Many thanks,


Sergio

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Re: questions of novice Pagoda lover
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2006, 08:02:11 »
Hi Sergio,

Some of the choices you mention are personal, and others more factual.  Manual or auto depends on your driving preference and skill - I have a manual and enjoy it a great deal due to the increased control I have over the car.  I am sure there are auto transmission fans out there.  There is only a rare 5 speed manual with respect to 'overdrive', but I gather that it is somewhat more sensitive than the standard manual and generally provides closer gear ratios rather than an effective overdrive.

General commentary is that mechanical parts are generally very available.  The same cannot be said for trim parts.  Some trim parts are almost impossible to find, such as sun visors, red rear tail lights, etc.  I have seen dash parts and steering wheels on ebay, so I assume that they are occasionally available.  I actually prefer the Nardi wheel to the original steering wheel, but again a matter of taste.

The 113 is a great driving car.  I would check out whatever you get carefully for rot/rust, and personally would tend toward more solid cosmetics on the car.

Hope this is of some value.

Regards -- Roger
1966 230SL black 4 speed (250 low compression engine)

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Re: questions of novice Pagoda lover
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2006, 08:06:18 »
Hi Serg,

I own a 230 SL 1963.  The early 230 SLs are more bare (interior) than the later 280 SLs.  I prefer the earlier 230 SLs.  The 250 SLs are rear in that they were a very few produced compared to the 230s and the 280s.  My car is manual but I always wanted an automatic.  However I have come to love my manual and I did test drive an automatic, but prefered my manual.  This is a matter of personal preference.

As for parts be it the interior or exterior, they are all available from different sources including MB itself.  There is a good parts supplier in europe by the name of sls.  When you visit this site, on the main page there is a link called "links".  When u click on this u will be navigated to a page with a myriad of suppliers.  

Ok here is a tip from personal expreience.  Restoring these cars can be very very expensive and time consuming.  Please try and purchase a vehicle that has minimal or no rust.  A car that runs and has known problems which can be easily fixed.  And one that requires not much more than a fresh paint job.  If a car in this condition runs you about $15 -20K, get it.  Do not buy something crappy for $8-12K.  The amaount of money u save in the initial purchase of a crappy car, you will pay atleast 4 times that amount to get this car into a decent shape.  Also there maybe some members here who are selling their cars.  From what I have seen on the site, they are enthusisats and a lot of stuff about their cars is documented on this site and they have been caring and kind to their machines, so you could pick up a relatively reliable and cleaner car from this site.  But then thats just my humble view from what little I have observed.  Happy Pagoda Hunting and good luck.  

Hope this helps,
Regards,
Hassan
« Last Edit: July 06, 2006, 08:11:04 by iceberg »

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Re: questions of novice Pagoda lover
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2006, 13:56:57 »
When I first decided to purchase a computer, I went to everyone that I knew to ask what to buy... asked 20 people got 25 different answers, but the one thing they ALL agreed on was "Buy the very best you can afford" - I did and was happy with it for awhile!

I have recently purchased two 113's... a '67 250 and a '69 280 - two completely different automobiles - but I LOVE them each for different reasons! The '67 cost 25K and I spent another 7K to get it the way I waqnted it for me to be happy! The 69 was 17.5 and needed nothing!

READ all of the posts here and LOOK at every option first!

1967 250SL Signal Red
1969 280SL "Tweety Bird Yellow"
1987 260E Charcoal

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Re: questions of novice Pagoda lover
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2006, 18:08:48 »
Welcome to the world of 230SL's! They are wonderful cars. I am fairly novice when it comes to cars, especially compared to the other fine men on this forum. What I can tell you is what others have told me. And when looking at these cars to buy, look for rust and the general condition of the the body of the car. Rust removal is tough and tedious. Check the undercarriage of the car for rust. People have already said it here, I just wanted to make sure to emphasize it  :) . These cars are a lot of fun, and I haven't even gotten mine running yet! This site is also a great resource, the "tour" threads offer a lot of information and pictures. The admins on the forum are also very knowladgeable and extremely friendly, as everyone else on the forum.

Enjoy the car search, and good luck!

Eugene
1965 230SL, Max Speed: Zero

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Re: questions of novice Pagoda lover
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 08:14:47 »
Yes buy the best you can.

It took me 2 years to find mine and I've seen a lot of rust buckets. some sounded like real bargains but I am glad that I did not buy the bargain ones and went for the best I could find/afford.

As soon as I got it, i drove it  and did not do anything to it for a year and a half and just enjoyed it.

it is now undergoing a body restoration to bring it to a higher level

Happy hunting,

Joel

1969 280sl auto
White exterior
Blue interior