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mdsalemi

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Review of 2 years worth of trouble...
« on: October 31, 2006, 09:46:26 »
For those of you who have had similar issues or have followed my problems, here's a summary at the end of 2 years worth of trouble.

April, 2004:  Car starts to behave peculiarly with less then ½ tank of gas.  Pressure builds in tank, car stalls.  Keeping tank ¾ or above alleviates the problem.

May, 2004: Dr. Benz works on car, cleans out all fuel system components.  Plugged screens, dirty filters.  Blows out all lines and puts everything back.  Works great—for 50 miles.  Now keeping tank very full.

October, 2004: On the 150 mile drive to put my car away for the winter, I notice some misfiring at speed, (70 MPH)  Slight, but there.  What now?

April, 2005:  Car starts stalling on more then ¾ tank.  New fuel tank solved the problem.  Car behaves well the rest of the season.  No misfiring, no stalling regardless of how full the tank is.

January 2006: Car dies on a short trip, starts immediately.  Does this once, and not again until April.

April 2006: Car dies again when moving—total loss of spark.  Start the process of examining everything.

July, 2006: Determine that the loss of spark is an improperly sized shutter wheel for the Crane ignition system.  It contacted the wires inside the distributor, and simply stopped turning causing the loss of spark.  Rebuilt the distributor and installed a Pertronix; with the Pertronix coil and plug gap opened up by +.010

August, 2006: Misfiring appears again.  Determined to be a somewhat lean condition on the midrange.  Corrected.

September, 2006:  Misfiring appears again, this time under hard acceleration.  Determined to be intermittent + lead and bad crimp on power to fuel pump.  Corrected, but not 100%.  Misfiring now limited to acceleration above 4500 RPM.

October, 2006:  Closed down plug gap to .025.  Drove car 150 miles to put away for winter.  Misfiring seemed to go away, ran fine under hard acceleration past 4500RPM.

Am I cured?  Will find out next spring.

Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red w/Black Leather
Restored
Michael Salemi
Davidson, North Carolina (Charlotte Area) USA
1969 280SL (USA-Spec)
Signal Red 568G w/Black Leather (Restored)
2023 Ford Maverick Lariat Hybrid "Area 51"
2023 Ford Escape Hybrid
2024 Ford Mustang Mach Ex PEV

al_lieffring

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Re: Review of 2 years worth of trouble...
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 10:41:27 »
Michael

When you switched to the PerTronics ignition witch of the Flame Thrower coils did you select?
I have an ignition kit on order, should be here in another week. I selected the oil filled 40kv coil with 1.5ohm primary, chrome plated of course.

Al

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mdsalemi

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Re: Review of 2 years worth of trouble...
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 15:45:02 »
Al,

It was the Flamethrower 40kV, black oil filled with internal resistance.  No chrome for me.  I might even paint it Bosch blue! [:0]

Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red w/Black Leather
Restored
Michael Salemi
Davidson, North Carolina (Charlotte Area) USA
1969 280SL (USA-Spec)
Signal Red 568G w/Black Leather (Restored)
2023 Ford Maverick Lariat Hybrid "Area 51"
2023 Ford Escape Hybrid
2024 Ford Mustang Mach Ex PEV

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Re: Review of 2 years worth of trouble...
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 16:35:56 »
How many total miles did you put on the Crane unit?  

I've got a Crane XR700 on my car and in approx 2000 mi it hasn't lost a beat.  I was really amazed on how well the car performed once it was installed.

1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.

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Re: Review of 2 years worth of trouble...
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 19:19:57 »
quote:
Originally posted by hauser

How many total miles did you put on the Crane unit?  

I've got a Crane XR700 on my car and in approx 2000 mi it hasn't lost a beat.  I was really amazed on how well the car performed once it was installed.

1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.



The Crane performed flawlessly for about 5 years, 6K miles  There was nothing inherently wrong with the Crane.  The installer chose the wrong shutter wheel--too big, which caused him to have to modify the distributor by removing the pivot pin for the breaker points.  That made going back to points impossible.  I suspect there was a smaller wheel which might have been used that would not have contacted the wires and not have caused the distributor to have this invasive modification.  Why it worked for so long and then started going south on me is one of those mysteries we'll never understand.

Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red w/Black Leather
Restored
Michael Salemi
Davidson, North Carolina (Charlotte Area) USA
1969 280SL (USA-Spec)
Signal Red 568G w/Black Leather (Restored)
2023 Ford Maverick Lariat Hybrid "Area 51"
2023 Ford Escape Hybrid
2024 Ford Mustang Mach Ex PEV

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Re: Review of 2 years worth of trouble...
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2006, 19:41:21 »
Hello Michael,

I also use about .028" gap for plugs. Some owners have good results from much more gap.

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