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Ann

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decode my data plate
« on: August 15, 2007, 14:01:11 »
I was wondering if anyone can help me decode my data plate?

1970 280 SL Euro, automatic, both tops.
I am the 3rd owner. The story goes that the first owner bought the car in Germany, drove it for several months while on vacation, shipped it home. She lived in Camarillo. I bought her from a woman in Thousand Oaks (only 15 miles away) who owned the car approx. 18 months, decided to sell rather than restore. Now owned by me (3rd woman) and back in Camarillo. Door stickers have been removed in previous re-painting and now lost forever. Euro headlights, small round yellow front marker lights on front fenders. Silver body & hardtop. Black interior- original.

vin 113.044-12-001700

426 620
180G 180G 6
113044 12 5
00451 81380
hood # 1380

Any info you can provide will be much appreciated. If any numbers are missing, or will be helpful in my finding them (with flashlight), please let me know. Also there is a number *280 SL/8* under the vin # does this have any significance beyond the model #?
 Thanks in advance.
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Ann

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'98 Jeep Gr.Cherokee (125K mi.)

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Re: decode my data plate
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 14:34:36 »
Ann,

The "5" at the end of that 3rd line indicates European delivery outside of Germany.

Do your sidemarker lights look anything like the ones in this link:

http://sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=8

If so, your Pagoda was probably registered in Italy at some point.

You should order a datacard. If you find this kind of minutiae interesting, that will prove very enlightening.

Douglas Kim
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USA
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Re: decode my data plate
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 15:08:04 »
Ann,

Hi.  Read through the links I posted here on data plates:
http://index.php?topic=7107

Rodd
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 15:10:51 »
Ann,

On your first line, you have 620 listed.  Let us know if your data card also has 620 and if MB Classic Center can tell you what it is.  We don't have it in our database of option codes.
http://www.sl113.org/data/show_table.asp?table_name=usr_option_codes

And if anyone was wondering, we have lots of tables (databases).
http://www.sl113.org/data


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1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420
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Re: decode my data plate
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 16:28:53 »
quote:
Originally posted by Ann

1970 280 SL Euro, automatic, both tops.
 Euro headlights, small round yellow front marker lights on front fenders. Silver body & hardtop. Black interior- original.

vin 113.044-12-001700

426 620
180G 180G 6
113044 12 5
00451 81380
hood # 1380

Also there is a number *280 SL/8* under the vin # does this have any significance beyond the model #?



113.044-12-001700 - 280SL Left Hand Drive Automatic, produced March 1968

426 - Power Steering with Automatic Transmission
620 - Unknown code
180G 180G - both Body and Hardtop Silver Gray, Glasurit paint
6 - unknown
113044 - 280SL  
12 - Automatic, Left Hand Drive
5 - European Delivery outside Germany
00451 - Production Number
81380 - Body Number

You mention that your car is a 1970, but the serial number is for a very early 1968 model.  Perhaps somewhere in the prior ownership chain it was reregistered when the owner changed countries in 1970 and that date just stayed with it?

The 620 code is interesting.  The 5 indicates it was originally delivered in Europe.  In addition, your car has the small round side marker/turn signal repeaters that were unique to the Italian market.  That code would usually be 617 (or 619).  Code 621 would be for deleting the rear license plate chrome molding. Perhaps 620 is Italian market side marker and amber turn signal lamps AND deleting the rear chrome molding?  Does your car have a 1 1/2 - 2 inch high slightly rounded chrome strip at the bottom of the recessed area between the bumpers that is be mostly covered up by your California license plate?

Your hood and soft top compartment lid should be stamped either 380 or 1380 on the underside edge near the driver's side if they are original to the car.

The /8 signifies the new sedan body introduced for 1968 that used some of the same engines that were also used in the older model "Finback" sedans still available at the time.  The new squared-off sedan is commonly referred to as a "Stroke Eight."  So a 230 Finback sedan would simply be called a 230, but a "new" 230 sedan would be a 230/8.  For some reason the /8 designation was also applied for a while to the 280SL just introduced at about the same time.  All the more reason to believe that your SL is actually a 1968 model.

A data card might clear up some of the mystery.  I think that you would have to get it from M-B in Germany though.  The MBUSA data cards only cover U.S. delivered vehicles, if I remember correctly.

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Re: decode my data plate
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 16:45:13 »
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Hughes

quote:
Originally posted by Ann

1970 280 SL Euro, automatic, both tops.
 Euro headlights, small round yellow front marker lights on front fenders. Silver body & hardtop. Black interior- original.
vin 113.044-12-001700
426 620
180G 180G 6
113044 12 5
00451 81380
hood # 1380


.../..
620 - Unknown code
.../...


SA 620 is "version for Italy"

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 16:53:33 »
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SA 620 is "version for Italy"

/Hans in Sweden



Well that makes sense. 622 is "Version for UK" and 625 is "Version for Australia."

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  1966 230SL Auto P/S
  Havanna Brown (408)
  Light Beige (181)
  Cream M-B Tex (121)

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  Havana Brown (408)
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  Cream M-B Tex (121)

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Re: decode my data plate
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2007, 18:15:48 »
In answer to the contributor's questions:
Yes, my side marker (or turn) lights are small, round, yellow amber.
Exactly as in photo #2 from your link - altho my Euro headlight chrome is not angled as in photo, but straight. Kind of a largish *square/round* shape to bezel and chrome.
And she is German-Italian <G>.
I am pleased to find out all this about my little car.

The 1968 designation will have to remain a mystery until I can get the card via Germany.
And if so how would this affect the value of the car, beyond making it unique? Positive/negative?

She'll be here and loved just the same.
Oh- her Speedometer is in Kilometers lists 79,931
Most if not all her window glass is DOT- does this have any meaning?
Might the window/windshield glass have been replaced since importation?

Ann

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'06 BMW Z4 Montego Blue
'98 Jeep Gr.Cherokee (125K mi.)

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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2007, 17:22:51 »
Ann,

Are you sure your VIN reads -001700 but not 017000 ? The latter would clearly indicate the 1970 year of manufacture.

Does your car have the all-red taillights (red rear turnsignal light) or is it already amber/red?

Furthermore, what is your engine number? It is stamped into the short block just below the sixth spark plug.
It should start with 130.983-12-

Best

Achim
(with 230/8 "Stroke Eight")
Achim
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 17:46:01 »
Hi Ann,
Me again - I seem to be responding to all of your posts!  Code 620 designates that it was originally supposed to be delivered to Italy.

John
Take care,

John

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Ann

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Re: decode my data plate
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2007, 19:07:44 »
quote:
Originally posted by 114015

Ann,

Are you sure your VIN reads -001700 but not 017000 ? The latter would clearly indicate the 1970 year of manufacture.

Does your car have the all-red taillights (red rear turnsignal light) or is it already amber/red?

Furthermore, what is your engine number? It is stamped into the short block just below the sixth spark plug.
It should start with 130.983-12-
Best

Achim
(with 230/8 "Stroke Eight")


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Hello Achim!

Yes, my car has the red tail lights with amber.
Vin (after looking again *is* indeed 113.044-12-001700
(two zeros on each side of the 17 <G>)

After cleaning off the engine block number here it is:

130-963-12-002196
metric auto

And more numbers between the 3rd & 4th spark plug:
130-016-00-91
280 (near 6th spark plug)

This is fun! The geneology of my car revealed!

Ann

'70 Euro 280 SL silver
'06 BMW Z4 Montego Blue
'98 Jeep Gr.Cherokee (125K mi.)