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Poll: which other antique car do you own??
« on: September 13, 2003, 09:00:38 »
If my budget allows me next year, I would consider buying a second antique car (yes, maybe one day I will own a modern car... :D ).

I am curious to see what other car (antique or sports) SL club owners have in their garage and which other club they would belong to.
Are they Mercedes freaks or just automobile freaks..???
I have seen w113 owners with 280SE, 190SL, etc as well owners with Porsche or Jaguars, etc.
(but the worst I have seen had a 280SL, a 450SL, a 280SE conv. 3.5l, a 600, a 280SEL 3.5l sedan, a Delage D8, an Aston Martin V8 Vantage, a Lola (that won LeMans..), a BB512 and a 328 GTS)...and a higher budget than me.. :)

Fabrice
Silver 1971 280 SL
New York City

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Re: Poll: which other antique car do you own??
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2003, 10:55:29 »
My other oldtimers were (don't have them anymore) 2 Triumph Spitfires (1967 and 1971), a Mini Cooper, a 1971 Jaguar XJ6, a late sixties Plymouth Fury, a '66 Volvo Amazon and actually my first ever car was a 196X Alfa Romeo 1750 GTV which I bought for $300 in 1978 and most likely the oil that it leaked is still in the street I lived on back then ... The Jaguar lost its brakes one day and we had to make like the Flintstones, open the door and use our feet on the pavement! The Spitfires saw the most use, both made it to the French Riviera and back (don't ask how, amazing what even 19-year old students can do with some basic tools and shoelaces). A fun moment was driving top-down in the Mk4 Spitfire along the port in Monte Carlo, and having a very enthusiastic gentleman wave at us - from his top-down Rolls Royce. I could go on and on. One day I would LIKE to own a Ferrari Daytona Coupe (365 GTB4) but I don't think this is in my future for some time to come.

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1969 Mercedes 280 SL automatic
1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
1983 Porsche 944 2.5
1990 Ford Bronco II

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Re: Poll: which other antique car do you own??
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2003, 13:22:29 »
got a 62 bug ragtop and a few old vespa's

1971 280sl
1962 VW
1954 Allstate vespa
1958 gs150 vespa
1962 gs160 vespa
1994 E500 W124
1971 280sl
1989 Porsche 930 coupe
1988 e30 m3
2001 ducati mh900
2006 ps1000
1962 Vespa GS160

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2003, 19:55:07 »
300SEL6.3, Ferrari Mondial, 98 Mini-Cooper, plus the 113 I'm buying. Would like: S3 Flying Spur Bentley, Porsche 904 (a replica- I can't possibly ever afford the real thing), and, most of all, to finish the GT40 I'm building....

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2003, 04:09:37 »
Fabrice:

Several Pagodas owners I know also own vintage Mustangs from 1965/66. I have owned three 1966 Mustangs at one time or other. They have a classic look that never seems to age...convertibles, hard tops, and fastbacks to suit every taste with hundreds of options and conbinations possible...very easy to maintain and self repair...most engine problems are cured by an inexpensive replacement bolt-on part...replacement parts are readily available, many parts dealers with virtually all the parts needed to build an entire car from available parts...and most parts are about 90% less costly than Pagoda parts...

Take a look at www.panix.com/~rmadison

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2003, 06:45:20 »
5 cars i would love to own:
1) 280 SL (actively pursuing at the moment with the great help from Doug Kim...thanks Doug)
2) Porsche Carrera RS or 911 S Targa (early seventies)
3) BMW 3.0 CSi (1971 or 1972)
4) Ferrari Dino 246 GTS (1970 or 1971)
5) Jaguar E-Type Series 1 (early sixties)

This this how close I came in real life (actually owned):
1) 1974 Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV (Got it for $2500 while in College in Maryland....drained my bank account, never started when it rained).
2) 1972 BMW 2002 tii (Got it for $1500 while in grad school in Washington DC...this car was so rusty the shocks almost came out of the rear speakers [:0].
3) 1972 Pontiac Grand Prix (This car was a rocket....got it for $400 while in College in Madison, WI).

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2003, 09:43:37 »
I owned several antique cars, at the time of my ownership they were just old. Wish I knew then what I know now.
Here's the list:
VW Beetle (sadly double back window was replaced by single one)
BMW 3.0CS (California model)
Mercedes 230 (sedan)

Wishlist:
Porsche 356
Ford Mustang
Jaguar Mark II



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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2003, 10:48:31 »
I am presently searching for a W113 280SL and have a 1969 MGC GT (same power etc. as the 250SL but not the quality - nor the price!!!) and a 1969 Mini Moke. If I go back to the classics (not antiques, please) I have owned, they includes Cannon trials cars in the 50's and 60's, a Mini Cooper S, a Lotus Elite with Mechamatic auto box, purchased from Jim Clark, a 3.8 Mk II, a Caterham 7 and a Porsche 930 - the 3.3 ltr turbo. As always happens in our youth, it was usually necessary to sell the present car to buy the next one. It is a sad reflection on today's car values that if I had held on to them all in the state I bought them and sold at today's values, I still wouldn't have enough money to buy my dream car - a 6 1/2 ltr Speed Six Bentley.



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Cognac, France
1969 MGC GT for social rallies
1969 Mini Moke for collecting the baguettes
Wanabee 280SL owner

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2003, 12:11:52 »
Sorry for the semantic confusion between antique and classic, but in my first language (French), they are all called "collection" cars!!

I hear you George on the Speed six!!! what a dream it would be (love your login name, by the way...any deals for us on old Cognacs???? ;) )
If only I could buy the 1936 Delage D8 from my friend, convertible, coach I beleive from Chapron.

I am seriously considering a 911 2.0 or 2.2 from 67 to 69 (more chrome than post 70's), but would look at a 280sel 3.5 or 6.3l, or a 450sel 6.9l, or even look at Aston Martin DBS V8 - but afraid of the maintenance cost - or a Ferrari 308 GT4 by Bertone, a style that I like more and more!!
I like the 190SL but think it is overvalued given the low power.. :(

I would consider buying together with a friend a 330 gt 2+2.

Now the dream cars, Bentley Speed 6, Bentley 4l 1/4, Delage D8, Delahaye 135, Talbot Lago, Hispano Suiza, Bugatti type 57, Aston DB4, Facel Vega HK 500, and so on!!! No lack of ideas there!!!

Fabrice
Silver 1971 280 SL
New York City

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2003, 14:49:19 »
we've had a variety of classic saabs, a triumph tr-6 (1974), the 1964 230sl that got sold to fund the 1966 230sl we have now...we also still have the award winning 1967 saab sonett II, #43 of 258 that were built....plans are for a ferrari dino 246gts, probably 70 or 71, I'd like to find one of the 50 or so saab preproduction turbo test cars of 1977, and a porsche 911, probably early 70's vintage....but first we need to get the barn ready for the storage and maintenance...work begins soon, picking up the lift next week.

-Lewis

'66 230 sl 113042-10-016238
67 saab sonett II #43 of 258
99 saab 9-5
00 saab 9-3 viggen conv

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2003, 20:37:10 »
I have a 1964 230SL, at this moment underging full restoration. I have owned the car since 1988. The previous owner had bought it whilst on holiday in the UK and brought it back to New Zealand on her return. It was UK new and, unfortunately, subjected to the salt that Poms spread on their roads during winter. We have no such problem here.
Does this group have a register of cars? Mine is  113042 20 006498

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2003, 00:45:47 »
quote:
Originally posted by Barry


...Does this group have a register of cars? Mine is  113042 20 006498

Hi Barry,

Yes, you can add your car here: http://www.sl113.org/data/carreg/show_table.asp

Try to enter the chassis number and year like the other cars. In that way you can order them by chassis or year through the bottoms above the table.

Regards,

Albert de la Torre Chavalera
Barcelona (Catalunya/Spain)
Feb.'64 230 SL Euro 113042-10-002432

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2003, 02:36:28 »
I run a '65 220 SEb coupe which gives me the same body shape as the mighty 280 but at a lower cost - it is also handy to cannibalise for the odd common part for the Pagoda! I also risk the occasional outing in a 1948 Rover P3, but it's more show than go. The wish list? There's not enough bandwith here!

kns

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2003, 08:25:30 »
1965 220SEb (w111) white (finnie) & 1972 300SEL 4.5 (w109) green in addition to beloved 1965 230 sl (w113); all three get horrible mileage. Now, which parts are interchangeable? None...? :?:

LFrank
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2003, 08:44:12 »
Dont have any other old cars at the moment, just my '64 230SL. My wish list would go on forever but in reality I hope to own over the next couple of years, a 1959 Caddy Coupe De Ville, a W111/112 3.5 Coupe and possibly an early Mustang !

If I was let I'd have a 3.5 Convertible, a 600 and a 300SL Roadster !

Now back to work !  ;)

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2003, 09:52:56 »
Hi Fabrice and all,

You asked about Mercedes freaks or just automobile freaks... I'm in both sides, but I'm mainly a Mercedes fan. I have another "classic" car: a VW Golf GTI Mk1 from 1984. It was my first car in 1989 (I was 19 years old), and I don't want to sell it... although it's stored in a garage since many time ago...

My daily car is a modest MB A 190 Avantgarde, and in my wish list (see attached photos) there are two SLR: the '55 300 SLR Uhlenhaut Coupé, and the '03 SLR Mercedes-McLaren  :D  I know... it's a very hard wish list... a SL 65 AMG would be enough for me!  ;)

About other (MB or not MB) classic cars, the Pagoda fills enough place for me: it's nice, enjoyable to drive, coupé and roadster in one car... so, why another classic car? (and the Gullwing or the Uhlenhaut Coupé are too far for my pocket!)
I like the W111 coupé (another Paul Bracq work), the 600 W100, the 300 S Coupé or Roadster W188, the G Class, the S Class W126, the 500 SL R129...

My next MB probably would be a modern car (not a new car): A friend owns a C 55 AMG (W202), 347 HP and 52 mkg of torque (more than a Ferrari F40!) under a "taxi" body... it's just amazing! I'm waiting until he sells the car [:p]

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Albert de la Torre Chavalera
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Feb.'64 230 SL Euro 113042-10-002432

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2003, 10:14:34 »
I agree albert, definitively a car freak!!
I am also patiently waiting to buy back the 1957 Rover 100 P4 in which my parents got married, bought from a friend by my great grandmother in 1958...I had to sell it when I was a student (had been stored since 1973, before the oil krach,  because it had to high consumption!!!).
It is now in working condition, owned by a Rover collector in France...
So. Albert, you were 19 in 1989....that makes you one year older than me!!!

Fabrice
Silver 1971 280 SL
New York City

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2003, 11:36:07 »
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Originally posted by Fabrice

...So. Albert, you were 19 in 1989....that makes you one year older than me!!!

Fabrice
Silver 1971 280 SL
New York City

Hi Fabrice,

Just today is my 33rd anniversary! So, how much older than you?

When I was born, my "Pago" was more than 6 years old..., and I bought it when I was 26. Some Pagoda owners of the Spanish MB Club also are in the 30's, and I think there are some in our Group. It's a funny point: classic cars usually are related to older people... but not our "always young" classic car!  :)

Regards,

Albert de la Torre Chavalera
Barcelona (Catalunya/Spain)
Feb.'64 230 SL Euro 113042-10-002432

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2003, 11:55:28 »
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Albert!!!

how funny!!! I'll be one year younger than you on wednesday....
I moved from Paris to New York when I was 26, and didn't have ANY car until my 280sl!!!
I have a regret though, I was at a car auction (late 97) a couple of months before moving and, because I knew I was moving, I didn't bid on this Maserati Mexico in okay working condition  I could have bought for 2500 EUR...!!!!! At that same auction was a 190sl in good condition sold for 15000 EUR...  Those were the old days.... :D

Fabrice
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New York City

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2003, 12:43:08 »
I had a 65 and 68 Chevy Corvair. The 65 was a convertible 140hp. I had this in college, great chick magnet. I now only have the 68 280 SL, but have recently had a hankering for an early 911. I like the idea of a sports car with 4 seats. I've also always loved the 911's lines. It's those fenders, not unlike the 113, that I love.

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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2003, 21:12:27 »
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Originally posted by LFrank

1965 220SEb (w111) white (finnie) & 1972 300SEL 4.5 (w109) green in addition to beloved 1965 230 sl (w113); all three get horrible mileage. Now, which parts are interchangeable? None...? :?:

LFrank
Washington DC
65 230 sl - auto
DB334/Hellblau



Well, AT LEAST the fusebox cover (complete with German language insert for fuse position, all corresponding) :) . I also guess your 220 is fitted with the white steering wheel - what colour is the wheel on the 230?

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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2003, 03:22:36 »
You said this Wednesday, so HAPPY BIRTHDAY Fabrice!!!

Regards,
Albert

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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2003, 05:34:04 »
Hello Fabrice and everyone else
Most people are surprised and amused when I tell them that apart from my 230 SL, my daily driver is a 1964 Holden EH ute. This is a distinctly Australian car. The Holden is a uniquely Australian derivative of General Motors and the ute is our version of a pickup. My ute is very rough and ready but most older Aussies have a soft spot for it because the EH was a hugely popular model in its day. The great thing I find is comparing my two cars. The Holden drives like a 1960's car and is quite agricultural with it's three speed column shift, scary brakes, questionable handling and lack of synchromesh on first gear. The 230 SL is only a year younger and drives like a modern car. I suppose I'm preaching to the converted here!
Regards
Mark Ravagnani

1965 230 SL

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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2003, 08:24:16 »
Merci Albert!!!! :D

Fabrice
Silver 1971 280 SL
New York City

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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2003, 09:08:25 »
group:
the question was asked what other classics do we own.
at this time i only have one other classis a 79 450sl but in the past year i have owned a 79 vw bug convertable a 78 alfa spyder a 57 jeep FC170 and my 66 230sl. I have sold all but the two MB's and i have no intention of letting go of my w113 any time soon. I just love this car. I am also looking for an early 911 and a TR6 or maby an MGA i guess you could say that i have a problem when it comes to the old cars.
I wonder if their is a 12 steep program for people like me?

Jerry P.