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bpossel

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Engine/Trans Stand?
« on: November 06, 2007, 12:14:25 »
All engine stands that I have seen are only for the engine.  When I pull mine out, I will pull with the trans still connected.

I would like to find a low, rolling stand that I can set the engine/trans on to be able to pull the head and cleanup the block while the car is at the painters...  

Does anyone have any suggestions?

 :) Thanks!!!
Bob

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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 18:29:28 »
Bob,
did you check harbor freight or eastwood.com?

how about using a wooden pallet, putting some heavey duty wheels on it?
once the motor and tranny are on it they should ont move around too much.


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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 07:57:16 »
Make a long pallet, or find a regular one, and mount some casters so you can roll it around.

Thanks

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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2007, 21:03:18 »
I put the donor engine on a furniture dolly while I rebuilt mine on a stand.  You could get two heavy duty furniture dollies at Harbor freight and splice them together with a couple of short 2x4s. It would make a sturdy and low 8-wheel dolly.  

Hope your floors are smooth.

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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2007, 21:30:32 »
Hey Bob. Does that camera of yours have video? I'd like to see the extraction when the time comes...

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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 04:33:29 »
Ray, Warren, Matt,

With your GREAT ideas, what I am going to do is use 3 car jack stands and under them have a heavy duty metal plate with heavy duty rolling casters (x4 per plate) that I purchased at Northern Tool.  My son works with a company that can supply and cut some nice steel plates.  I will take a pic.

James, my daughter has a dig video camera, so I will try to get this filmed.

I "really hope" to pull the engine this weekend.

More to come....
Bob

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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2007, 17:21:32 »
3 car stands on a heavy duty metal plate sounds good. I made a wooden version of it by 2x4 on wheels (two stands actually, both for engine + transmission).  The oil pan is barely clearing the floor, but they are easy to move around. I have added a couple of pictures of them just when they were completed. Good luck!

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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2007, 20:05:33 »
bob,
I had a thought, you could just leave the motor on the subframe with the wheels and put the car on rollers on the front


basically remove the motor /tranny and subframe from below by raising the body.
probably how they were originally installed at the factory  40 years ago.

of course you would have to remove the intake maniflod, but other than that you probably could even leave the radiator installed.

Matt

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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2007, 07:03:03 »
Hi Matt, Welcome Thor!

I think MB did install some engines in other models that way.  Not sure of the 113SL?  I did consider removal with the suspension, but opted for the more traditional method.   Great ideas however!  That's what is nice about this group of 113 and MB enthusiasts.  Sharing of ideas and knowledge!

Thor, your stand looks very nice!  You even painted it!

My son and I made our rolling stands out of 3/8 inch steel plates and swival casters each rated at 250 pounds.  We went to my sons place of employment and were able to find some scrap steel.  Then my son went to the "chopper" machine and he cut the plates for me.  We made 3 of plates, each with 4 casters.  One plate for each side and one for the rear.  On these plates we used standard jack stands...

If we were to do it again, we would have only made one larger plate for the front, because we ended up having to cut a couple of additional pieces to hold the front plates together.  After we set the engine on our home made rolling stands, we tested it and found that the front 2 stands started to rotate as we moved it, and with the angle of the side engine mount arms, we got a bit nerveous that the jack stands would slide out...  So we tied the 2 front plates together...

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Re: Engine/Trans Stand?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 01:36:36 »
Yeah, dropping the entire suspension sounds like a really cool idea!

However Bob, in your case I imagine you actually need to roll (flat-bed etc) the chassis over to the paint shop eventually, so the suspension would eventually need to be re-attached to the car... UNLESS, you happen to have a complete suspension with wheels lying around to swap in-and-out....

Now that I think about it, is the car safe to roll with the suspension (without engine) attached to the chassis through a pair of subframe mounts only?  In other words, is the torsion bar adequate enough to prevent the subframe mounts from having any longitudinal flexion? (I hope you keep the torsion bar and steering still connected)

I guess this might be ok since the car would move relatively slowly... but while you're there Bob, you might want to make sure you've got good subframe mounts (especially since the painter might end up raising the car, and dangling the front suspension)

ok, this cook is leaving the kitchen now.... looking forward to the next installment of your most excellent project!

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