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Bob G ✝︎

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Modifications humm!
« on: December 24, 2007, 02:31:54 »
My dad was an aero space engineer and was still sell helicopter components before he passed away in 1998.
 
He was a Marine, so it was his way or noway! When he went out on sales calls to talk to other engineers from Hughes, Waste-King, Boeing Aircraft and others (a long list of clients I must say), he talked to them with blue prints and numbers. I never could understand that foreign language.

He was one of the first, I mean first, with a mobile phone in his cars becaue of his position with these companies  You know the ones that were as big  as a toaster with a transmitter that was as large as a big suitcase with a whip antenna on the trunk.

Sometimes he drove with his legs and talked on the phone, scary!!!
Nothing I did was right. His famous word to me was "STUPID This" "Stupid that".

He had a staff of 12 people, 2 engineers, and a lady whom I still admire today and is 95 years young. She ran his businesss when he was out or in Europe and Germany.

You may be asking yourself why is this guy telling us about his father? Well, for certain reasons. He was a smart guy and developed
some very useful items for the companyies he dealt with.
 
He had the ability to see things in his mind, disassemble them and put them back together.

I learned how to drive on the old 280SL he purchased from a connection in Germany when it was new and brought back to the USA and used every day for the rest of his life.

Toward the end he separated from his family for another woman who promised him to make him rich, right!! We lost contact and that 280SL lost the only person who cared enough to keep her stock.

Years later, after he had passed away, I took another look at a sad  looking, once proud Mercedes-Benz and knew if I purchased it from his second wife, (yes I said purchased it, not given it) I would have a long road to restore this car to its former self.

I will not go into details of his exploits other than to say he must  of had a lot of free time on his hands and like a Doctor Jekyll instituted some very bizzare modifications that not even Q at 007s call would have done.

I read all your posts and ponder that if he had left things alone and did not get cheap with the labor cost, I might have had a decent car to restore.

Every day I look at this car there is something he did that I cannot figure out and want to undo. Call it sentemental or a crazy purchase on my part. A lot of OEM parts were discovered, so I think he was going to restore it someday, that is if his second wife did not hear about it and tell him where his money should be spent otherwise.

I do not care what other people think of me and my dad's car. One day, whenever I have a little money it will get better, I have seen worse.

Modifications can be a good thing. Instead of a 392 rearend how about a 327 with a freshly painted axle and new bushings?
 
Sometimes buying a car is all about making it yours. The smell of cherry pipe smoke still lingers as I open the doors a reminder of a simpler time. One day that smell will be replaced with new horse hair pads for the seats and correct new carpeting and an unmolestered air conditioner unit and a tangle of wires I have no clue what they did do or why they are there.

I respect modifications when they are done to improve the performance, handling and justify the means of making a 1960s classic a better running automobile. What I do not like is taking the heritage of a car and doing a Doctor Strangelove on it and destroying it.
 
Too few of these cars remain. Sadly, parts are getting scarce and disapearing before our eyes. The price keeps going up and a stripped car on Ebay will get you more money than an assembled one you own.

Think it over before you make unnessary modifications in the long run. Mercedes-Benz did its homework we all have to understand it was a different world then and the beauty of having a forty year old car is the reminder of a time long gone and that we shall not see again.
Robert Warren Geco
1968 280SL "Dad's car"
« Last Edit: December 24, 2007, 09:08:53 by Bob G »

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Re: Modifications humm!
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2007, 04:18:06 »
Bob:

That is quite a story, bittersweet memories and the reality of owning one of these cars.

You describe what is perhaps the greatest challenge facing the buyer of an older car: what to do about the "changes",  restore?, or leave them alone because they work.

I've owned two of these cars now and I still wince at what some mechanic did (or did not do), parts are removed and not put back, cheap or incorrect parts are used, and worse.

I consider I have a kind of resposibilty to get the car at least part way back to factory condition (within limits of budget, time, and skill).

Most of us never quite get all the way to a really correct car (if that is even possible) but we enjoy the challenge of making the car  better part by part.

Thanks for a great story and for having us think for a moment what it means to own an elegant car that deserves the best we can give it.

Richard M, New York City
1969 280 SL, Tunis Beige, Euro Model (Italy).

bpossel

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Re: Modifications humm!
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2007, 05:19:58 »
Hi Bob,

I have to agree with Dick, great story! I enjoyed reading it.  Your Dad sort of reminded me of my Dad.  My Dad (& Mom) moved from Germany to the States in the early 50's.  My brother and I are 1st generation in the USA.  My Dad was a very thorough person and one who always said "that could be done better".  In the end, it was always "better".  Everything we had was neat, clean and very organized.  When my parents bought a new 190Dc in 1965, toured Germany with my brother and I, and then brought it back to the US, the plastic remained on the seats until the mid 70's.  It was in '75 that I removed the remaining plastic as I drove the "4 on the column" throughout my high school years.  Anyway, my Dad was tough like yours.

As I read your post, it reminded me of my Dad...  He was very thorough and kept the car(s) clean, engine tuned, etc...  but when the old 190Dc started to rust (big time...  Ohio salt...  rust...) up around the headlights, he just used duct tape to hold the chrome rings on.  He also was a chain smoker and as he drove with the windows open, sometimes the ash would blow back in on the seats.  Some of the seats had burn holes, which were also taped over.  In general, sad!

When they gave me the 'ol boy around 1982 (after I was married), I worked a 2nd job in order to restore it and put it back together the right way.  Spent ~5k, and it looked great!  I drove it as a daily driver for a few more years until the engine quit.  I dont even recall why the engine stopped running...  My wife would not let me spend any money on it (she is not a car person!).  I ended up selling it for $1,000.  Very sad day!

I still have pictures and old movies of it when it was new and still in Germany.  I also still have some of the old stuff from it, including the metal data plate which was used like a credit card when repairs were done at the dealer.  They would swipe the metal card and it would put all of the needed car data on the repair bill.  Does anyone else remember these plates?

Anyway, long story, and not sure why I am writing this....  but your story reminded me of this...

Merry Christmas!
Bob



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'71 280SL  /  '97 E320
« Last Edit: December 24, 2007, 05:21:41 by bpossel »

Klaus

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Re: Modifications humm!
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2007, 10:08:58 »
Bob P wrote:
"I also still have some of the old stuff from it, including the metal data plate which was used like a credit card when repairs were done at the dealer. They would swipe the metal card and it would put all of the needed car data on the repair bill. Does anyone else remember these plates?"

Bob,
I assume you mean the following plate:
(hope the uploading works)


This plate was introduced by MB North America in the 80s, to ease the job of writing service papers. It was, however, not an original part of the W113 purchasing process.



Klaus
1969 280 SL

well, I do everything in accordance with instructons, but I never succeed in uploading a picture.

Note from admin: You've managed to upload about 20 files over the years. You do mangle the names however.... I've inserted the picture for you.
« Last Edit: December 25, 2007, 10:10:27 by Klaus »