W113 vs Boxster

[Paddy_Crow]

I remember back in the late seventies when they released the 928, all the purists derided it for not being a real Porsche. The Boxster has a reputation around here for being a "Chick" car.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch...

[peterm]

Thanks to the sopranos the boxster is the "Porsche with panties"
Purists be dammed I love my water cooled 911 with all its electronic nannies.  Those that deny it as a true Porsche can spend their time extricating their car from guardrails when the rear end swings around as it ahs a nasty tendency to do.  It is a driving experience on a daily basis for me, the aural pleasure of the PSE exhaust combined with the everpresent ability to press the right foot and make things a blur is without compare. Tooling arond town in the 113 is a different type of experience but not a seat of pants joy that the porsche is.

[Mike Hughes]

The Boxster is what Porsche would have done with the 914 and 914/6 if they hadn't been trying to do it on the cheap while also trying to anticipate the proposed U.S. roll-over standards that all but killed drop-top cars in the 1970s.  Now, If I was trying to choose between a well sorted 914/6 and an equally well sorted Pagoda SL it would be a hard choice - both cars have loads of character and period ambiance.  But If I had to choose between my SL and a Boxster the Pagoda would win hands down.

- Mike Hughes  -ô¿ô-
  1966 230SL Auto P/S
  Havanna Brown (408)
  Light Beige (181)
  Cream M-B Tex (121)

[hauser]

The Boxter will only depreciate while the Pagoda will only get more valuable.

1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.

[JimVillers]

The windshield wipers clear the rain on my Boxster S, I use RainX (not wipers) when it rains on my 230SL.  Totally different cars whose purposes do not cross for me.

Plus the 113 club has a better club for my needs.

Jim Villers
190SL, 230SL 5-Speed, MGB 5-Speed, Boxster S

[rob walker]

Riccardo, dont keep us in suspense. How was the Havana Pagoda?

Rob Walker
1968 280SL papyrus white/green leather
Spain and Turkey

[France]

Naj,

On the cols, you can always shift down...  

And then you can drive home on the motorway in comfort!  Happy motoring.  JA's de man!

Trice
1968 280SL US, signal red/bl leather, auto, kinder seat
Sarasota FL; Alsace France; Switzerland
Think of your Pagoda as a woman with a past...stable now including a 92 911 Carrera 2 Tiptronic

[RGubbioli]

quote:Originally posted by rob walker

Riccardo, dont keep us in suspense. How was the Havana Pagoda?

Rob, unfortunately unexpected guests on Saturday meant I didn't get the chance to go! Nearly thought of making a day trip for the lot of us but, then again, they wanted to see the sights of London so no can do.

Therefore I remain a Pagoda virgin...

[dum]

Check this out, a friend's Boxster S & my early 250sl.

So different, so nice.

A pity that no one stopped to have a look at the Porsche!

[abe280SL]

No brainer...you have a daily driver so you must have a W113.  Sorry, when I think of Porsche I think of 911s....all other P cars are not even worth giving the "P wave" or the "hello light flash".  Dont get the 911 wantabe....For the money, get yourself a  real P car..either an 83SC BULLET PROOF or late 87-89 9ll.  Those cars will still maintain there vallue.  A Boxter....geeezzz
what kind of question is that!!!?
IMHO as always...and I am not biased
abe

[RickM]

More depreciation, MPG and airbags in the porker

A well bought, preowned Boxster will hold it's value.

Referring to a Boxster as a "porker", when comparing to a 113, is pretty funny. (At least the 113 isn't der Panzerwagen / 107)

That said, I've never been a fan of the car but know others who state they're quite capable vehicles.

[Kayvan]

I perused the 5 pages of posts, and no one mention the widely publicized engine defects of early Boxsters.

The first few years had engine casting defects, IMS seal failures which basically leaked non-stop; people used to joke the Check Engine light means Change Engine. Many were warrantied, many were not .

They fixed the issue, however, if you see an early < '99, cheap car stay away.

Re: v. 113

-Porsche prestige v. M-B classic......dont do it for status....a recent Miata will be more fun/less headaches
-The Boxtser will have minimal long term appreciation....check 944 Turbo Values today
-The Boxster has minimal presence v. 113; its now dated, and looks generic
-The Boxster will cost a lot less in long run v. ANY vinateg car
-The Boxster will provide cooler a/c, better heat, sound insulation, better crusing gearing etc.
-It is not like a 911.  I raced a 911 and Boxster back to back....Boxster had inferior chassis shake/shudder, dull steering/brake feedback, low power.

If you are looking for a modern summer roadster I would expand your search to TT, Z3, Z4; SLK and even Vette.  I did the lightly used Luxo Euro GT in the 90s via a '85 M635 CSI and in retrospect should have gone with a Vette!

[john.mancini]

Hi Riccardo,
I have been fortunatel to have owned both. I sold the Boxster S, still have two Pagodas. As you know well, they are two different animals that will have their pros and cons. I love driving my 280Sl's. They are great cars. However, if 300 to 500 mile trips are part of my regular schedule (as you mentioned), a new car will be more comfortable, more safe, and less likely to have issues than an older car will.
John Mancini