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mille

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How to clean an aluminum engine
« on: April 14, 2008, 14:26:28 »
How to clean an aluminum engine! Thought it might be of interest to you guys, even though it's  "borrowed" from the Morgan "Gomog" page: http://www.gomog.com/mi/GoMoG/plus8eng.html#Cleaning%20Aluminum%20Engine

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Sadly no W113 at the moment, BUT a 1974 Morgan +8  8)  :?:

Cleaning Aluminum Engine Components.

Note: This was originally posted to rec.motocycles on the Scions of Lucas Site by Mark Holbrook (holbrook@alliant.alliant.com) and has since been added to and re-edited here.

Caution:    WEAR EYE PROTECTION. WEAR SUITABLE PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND/OR
                BREATHING APPARATUS AS NECESSARY. WORK ONLY IN WELL
                VENTILATED AREAS AND KEEP THE SOLVENTS AWAY FROM FLAME.

You'll be glad you did. I accidently squirted xylene in one eye once during this effort and it burned like hell. Also avoid getting the acids, carb cleaner, and gasket remover on anything other than what you're cleaning and dispose of used solvents, etc. in an environmentally responsible way.

  1.Normal wash: Good only for removing pure dirt and light oil. Use your favorite cleaner (I prefer
     Dawn dishwashing detergent over Simple Green or other "automotive" cleaners simply because a
     strong detergent gets the most of this type of crud off with the least effort.)

  2.Pressure wash: Removes heavier dirt and oil but not any corrosion. Recommended only for whole
     engines. Avoid spraying at any exposed seals (like around the countershaft or tachometer pickoff,
     possibly the exhaust header seals, too). OK to hit normal gaskets.

  3.Dishwasher: For individual pieces you get results similar to a pressure washing. Of course cleans the
     insides of pieces so be sure to blow air through passages to get out residual water. Do or don't tell
     your spouse about doing this depending on which path minimizes negative spousal reaction. (Mine
     was pretty skeptical - sniffed the dishes that were in with the parts to see if they smelled like oil.)

  4.Sand blasting: Sand (silica or carborundum particle) blasting will seriously remove metal and leave
     an uncorroded, but pitted surface. Particles may become imbedded in aluminum if air velocity used
     is too great and/or the alloy is particularly soft. Use with incredible care if at all, especially on pieces
     with oil/water galleries. If you do, mask off all possible entrances carefully since any grit that gets in
     will be difficult to completely get out and any left in will likely destroy something in your engine.

  5.Bead blasting: Small glass beads which shatter on impact clean off surface crud and leave the
     aluminum looking like it was tapped with a zillion microscopic ball peen hammers. Same warning on
     keeping grit out of passages.

  6.Shell blasting: Ground up walnut (or other hard) nut shells are the gentlest of the three blasting
     methods. Removes crud and shallow corrosion and leaves the surface looking the most like it
     originally did. Note that the blasting methods are the only ones that will get corrosion off metal in
     the nooks and crannies.

  7.Kerosene, paint thinner, gasolene, naptha (in decreasing order of flammability and increasing order
     of volatility, I think): Use to remove oil, oily dirt, and tar. Use a wire brush or toothbrush to assist in
     getting off thick gunk. Does nothing for corrosion. Build/rent/buy a parts washer to speed cleaning
     of dissasembled pieces.

  8."Gunk" or equivalent: Gunk combines a petroleum-based solvent and a detergent in one can.
      Does  a  pretty good job on heavy dirt and light oil, nothing for corrosion. I think using a heavy
      detergent  wash to remove heavy dirt, then a separate treatment of solvent to get heavy oil/tar off,
      and finally a  second detergent wash works better than trying to do it all in one pass.

  9."Carb cleaner": is xylene and/or MEK (methyl ethyl ketone), i.e. an active, very volatile solvent.
     Good for getting the "varnish" and "parafin" that form on the inside (and outside) of carburetors
     from old gasoline. Good as a general solvent, too.

 10.WD-40: The solvent doesn't work as good on varnish as real carb cleaner, but of course WD-40
     leaves the surface protected due to the oils in it. Use it immediately after you have de-crudded (like
     that verb?) and brushed/blasted to keep surface shiny.

 11.Hydrochloric acid: (available as muriatic acid). Takes off corrosion (not oily gunk), bubbling as it
     does so, but leaves the surface dark grey. Use a stainless steel wire "tooth" brush ($1 at your local
     car parts place) to expedite activity. Don't use it unless you really like this color. Avoid the fumes.

 12."Etching formula mag wheel cleaner": Available in a spray bottle and labelled "B" on the ABCDE
     specifier for automotive cleaning products, it contains phosphoric and hydrofluoric acids and
     bubbles when applied. Use a stainless steel wire "tooth" brush to expedite activity. Avoid the fumes.
     Leaves a dull light grey finish which can be lightened up by wiping with a paper towel/cloth
     immediately after brushing with the wire brush.

 13.Gasket remover: Water-based liquid that softens fiber gaskets so they can be scraped off without
     damaging the machined surfaces. I mention it here because I found two uses for it: 1) it softens up
     the carbon and crud on the inside of the cylinder head, the ports, and the valve heads, which eased
     scraping those parts clean considerably. 2) It seems to soften/dissolve clear-coat (and other paint as
     well - be careful where you paint/spray this stuff!)

 14.Wire brushes: You can get ones that fit in your drill and brush either circumferentially or radially (oh
     hell, go look at them) and in different wire thicknesses. I recommend the softest wire for aluminum.
     Also get the wire "tooth" brush (and more than one) I mentioned above. Look in the welding section
     of your hardware store if you don't see them in the tools section. You can also mount a wire wheel
     on your grinder for small parts. Frankly, wire brushing (and blasting) are the only things I've found
     that clean off corrosion and leave the surface bright. It's a lot of work and can't get in the nooks and
     crannies but gives the best results. Clean surface with solvent first to keep brush from simply
     smearing the crud around.

 15.Scotch-Brite pads: Available in about 6 by 9 inch sheets for a buck, they work well on clean,
     smooth aluminum to brighten it up, don't do squat for rough-finished aluminum.

 16.Aluminum jelly: I tried this stuff years ago so don't remember exactly what it is (more acid-based
     stuff, I guess) and was disappointed in the results. But then perhaps that was when I still hoped for
     some magic method that didn't involve elbow grease.

 17.Don't use steel wool on aluminum. Tiny bits of it will break off and stick in the aluminum. These
     then rust and you are left with "rusty aluminum".

 18.Polishing Aluminum: Simichrome works very well. There are a number of other commericially
     availabe aluminum polishing products.

     Additional non-aluminum specific cleaners:

 19.3M metal-stripper-wheel. This is a round plastic sponge, impregnated with abrasive grit, which you
     chuck into your electric drill. These remove tar, paint, rust from steel frames, tanks, panels.
     Probably a bit too abrasive for use on alloy, though. With one of these wheels, you can remove all
     the paint from,say, a gas tank without using any evil chemicals. It also removes surface rust, leaving
     you with bare metal covered with a network of fine scratches, ideal for paint adhesion. You then
     swab off your part with "metalprep", wash it off with water, dry it thoroughly, and paint away! That
     new paint will stick like glue!

 20.Get yourself a can of "Carburetor & small Parts Cleaner". This milky-white stuff will take the hide
     off an elephant. It'll take carbon off the tops of pistons. It'll clean your carbs good. Just don't put
     any non-metallic parts in it. You just dump your castings, jets, etc into the can ( get the kind that
     comes with a dip basket ), and fish them out a half-hour or so later. Bright-squeaky-clean.

 21.Another good carb cleaner is Berryman Chemtool. This stuff is about as poisonous and flammable
     as gasoline, but at least it's a good cleaner. Berryman's comes in a spray can, and its great fun to
     spray it on a grease- and-varnish encrusted carburetor; the stuff just liquifies and flows away. I
     personally use chemtool to clean carbs I don't want to take apart or off.

 22.Spray it heavily with Gunk and leave it covered over night, then scrub with those plastic scratch
     pads. For the corrosion, Aluminum Jelly works good, but do it after you rinse the engine cleaner off.
     My engine came out looking great.

     Chuck Stringer (cstringe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu)

 23.Being the sort who hates paying more than $50 for a motorcycle I've run into a lot of corroded
     aluminium and have had good luck with scotchbrite(tm) pads (plastic wool) followed by Nevr Dull.
     Nevr Dull doesn't have much problem cleaning up the scratch marks left by really fine scotchbrite.
     This works pretty well on both smooth and sand-cast surfaces, though it doesn't get the all the crap
     out of the sandcast surface, which in my book is Ok because it doesn't make it look like you've got
     nothing better to do with your life than sitting around polishing your crankcase (hmm, sounds like a
     euphemism...). For bad corrosion (or ****ty castings - like old ducatis) I've had to bead blast
     followed by 320 grit followed by 400 grit followed by 600 grit followed by Nevr Dull, but it's
     usually just easier to buy another motorcycle. The progressive stages of sandpaper can also be used
     with some success to take the sand cast marks out. As for the jugs, good luck. A brass brush will
     take out what crap it can reach, but you probably can't find one long enough. It shouldn't leave any
     visible scratch marks on a rough cast surface if that's what you've got. Bead blasting will cure it for
     sure.

     Latte' Jed (mason@asylum.sf.ca.us)

 24.In general, the rough cast cases clean up pretty well with some aluminum cleaner or carb cleaner
     solvents available at auto parts stores. Tide works ok, a brass bristle brush works really well. You
     *don't* want to polish the cases with buffing wheel, etc. Polished side covers, like most of the older
     British and Italian bikes had, are fine, but polishing the engine cases themselves will cause the
     engine to retain heat.

     If you do complete disassembly and have stubborn corrosion/need for resurfacing, a bead blaster
     with walnut shell grit works wonders. Finding someone to do this, however, is often a bit of a trick.
 

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Re: How to clean an aluminum engine
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 20:35:10 »
Almost all recommendations are good. Don't use the muriatic acid and don't use the aluminum jelly. Also, avoid the various "purple" cleaners that say they have a high Ph.  They're basicly Sodium Hydroxide (draino; NaOH) and will corrode aluminum alloys.

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Re: How to clean an aluminum engine
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 16:34:08 »
Just "kärchern"!

Damn, what's the translation for that? See leo.dict.org ...

Use a high pressure cleaner (www.karcher.de/int/Welcome.htm)
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